Art De La Guerre

[KevinD]

The top right bullet on page 32 says light troops “…turn for free at the beginning or end of the move.”

(1) Does this mean they pay a 1 UD penalty to turn in the middle of their move like non-lights?

“During the same move they can make a second … turn but their movement allowance is then reduced by 1 UD.”

(2) Does this mean a second turn can only follow a first turn if that first turn is made at the beginning of their move?

(3) Can this second turn be made in the middle of their move or at the end?

Are the answers:
(1) Yes
(2) Yes
(3) Yes

[Mike Bennett]

[quote="KevinD"]

[fdunadan]

Sorry to break your advance but the original phrasing in french is
" * Lights can make a first turn free. this maneuver is not deducted from their movement.
* in the same move they can make another turn that reduce their move by 1 UD"
so 1) NO
2) NO
3)YES
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[Za Otlichiye]

I read it as - (2) No - You can make one free turn either at the start or at the end but not both. (The usual problem with or vs. exclusive or that needs to be addressed with careful proofing.) You can also make one additional turn at cost. The turn in the middle is the "second" turn. It just happens before the first turn at the end.

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Oh dear if so that's a significant mistranslation in the English rules. Could someone post the French?

[Ramses II]

[Mike Bennett]

[Zoltan]

And to be clear we are saying:

Lights can make one turn at any time during their move - this first turn does not reduce their movement distance.

Lights can make a second turn any time during their move (but obviously after the first turn) - this second turn reduces their move by 1UD.

LI Example:
Make a half turn
Move 1UD
Make a quarter turn
Move 1UD

[Za Otlichiye]

Or:

1⁄2 UD
1⁄4 turn right
1 UD
1⁄4 turn left
1⁄2 UD

Rather rare there would be any advantage to 2 turns in the middle of the move, but as Mlke hints it would be nice not to have to wait a year to get answers to this level of question.

[Mike Bennett]

[daveallen]

[lionelrus]

En effet, la règle anglaise est restée en V3 sur ce point....
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[lionelrus]

[daveallen]

Merci Lionel,

au moins je connaîtrai la règle pour le week-end prochain à Lyon

Dave
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