Art De La Guerre

Neep · Signifer Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 301

If a unit is attacked more than one flank/rear edge, but not its front edge, and survives, may it conform to any attacker, or just the main unit?
May it partially conform? I.e. it has a non-square base and is attacked flank and rear - may it conform to the flank attacker even though it will be a partial confomance?

Ramses II · Post� le: Mar Mai 16, 2023 12:57 am Sujet du message:

Conforming units in melee (P52) does not stipulate which way the ‘target’ unit must conform, so I suggest it is the choice of the defender.

And in the case of a rectangular based unit, adjust the positions accordingly with the least impact on the rest of the battlefield.

daveallen · Post� le: Mar Juin 06, 2023 11:33 am Sujet du message:

Hi Gavin,

I think the rules do stipulate which unit is conformed to:

Neep · Signifer Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 301

Problem is, no one is in combat at this moment, and moves by the player can change who will be in combat with whom. I see worms.

daveallen · Post� le: Mar Juin 06, 2023 4:38 pm Sujet du message:

If you're seeing worms I strongly recommend visit to the optician.

Meanwhile, the question you asked was:

Neep · Signifer Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 301

Hmm. Dave I was concerned if blue moves unit 2 to contact the flank of red main unit A. But I suppose blue unit 1 could still conform to red A, leaving blue 2 and red B supporting the combat. So your analysis stands.
Conforming to incomplete conformance is requited to be as soon as possible. Perhaps conforms to flank/rear should be similarly required.
Still leaves Gavin's advice on shifting oblong units about.

If you improbably get attacked on all 3 flank/rear sides, and rout the main unit, I guess you deserve to choose your subsequent opponent! Very Happy

daveallen · Post� le: Mar Juin 06, 2023 6:14 pm Sujet du message:

The question you asked was about a single unit being contacted by two enemy units. Mention of a fourth unit on either side only serves to muddy the water of what is a straightforward procedure (conformation) under the rules.

Dave
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Neep · Signifer Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 301

Dave, I was pointing out that your solution holds even if you do add a 4th (5th, 6th, 7th...) unit.
If the main unit (= "in melee") is present, you must by rule conform to it.
If not then by rule...well there is no rule that covers it, but obviously you must conform to one of them.

Never quite sure of intent.

Mark G Fry · Post� le: Jeu Juin 08, 2023 8:40 pm Sujet du message:

I think that this question has been resolved/answered previously in another post.

It was agreed that the first enemy unit to make contact in this situation is the 'primary' unit and the attacked unit must confirm to that.

Cheers
Mark