Art De La Guerre

[KevinD]

If all enemy units evade does the charger stop if he would enter penalizing terrain?

The last bullet on point 6 on p 43 does not list penalizing terrain as something that stops a charge but the last bullet on point 8 does list it as something that stops all charges.

(I assume, that even though it is not listed under either 6 or 8, all charges stop if they reach terrain they can’t enter such as impassable, flooded rivers, coasts or, for Chariots or Cataphracts, difficult terrain.)

[Andy Fyfe]

If all targets evade, and the charging unit is not impetuous, it can stop after 1UD (foot) or 2UD (mounted).

[Hazelbark]

You cannot enter terrain you do not have the movement to enter.

But you do not automatically stop at terrain either.

KN 1 UD from Field, is ordered to charge by a CP.

target evades.

The KN must still try and travel 2 UD, which it can and enters the terrain.

[Neep]

Well that reconciles the two contradictory bullets. Penalizing terrain does not stop you in the 1/2 UD minimal range, but does stop you beyond that(?).

[SteveR]

I assume we are talking about impetuous troops as anyone else can voluntarily stop after going the required 1/2 UD

Different situations going on here.

The next to last bullet under step 6 says that impetuous troops must continue their charge for their full adjusted charge distance if all targets evade. No exceptions for bad terrain, they must enter it if they can.

Step 8 "continuing a charge", per the first bullet, covers a different situation -one where some of the units of the group contact enemy and some do not. In this case the impetuous troops which contact and are in support stop, and the rest of the group must continue. But ONLY if they are pursuing evaders OR they can contact new enemy.

If they are doing so, and reach terrain that penalizes them, they can stop

(and they can also stop if they would be in a situation which results in the "exceptions to uncontrolled charges")

in my opinion of course...

[Neep]

My reading of the page, which could stand some reworking, is that once the conditions of 5, 6, or 7-6 are met, then 8 follows. The last bullet of section 6 does not preclude other things from stopping a charge. If so, note that the exceptions to uncontrolled charges still apply to impetuous units continuing an ordered charge.

Non-impetuous troops can stop anytime past the minimum but would still be prevented from entering penalizing terrain. (Presumably if they are already in penalizing terrain, they would not be "meeting" it. Also, presumably open terrain is penalizing to LI.)

Now if a group with impetuous units charges, and some of the target evades out of reach, who is "pursuing evaders"? No one? All of them? Only those that would have entered melee or support if the evaders had stood?