Art De La Guerre

[pichuleante]

In the situation of the image, can the knight charge the tupi on the left even if the pivot needed superpose temporary on the other tupi? This question is asked to avoid arguing during games. Sorry if some consider it obvious.

[lionelrus]

He can
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[Ackostokie]

I'm interested why the answer is yes

The rules state you can overlap a friendly unit, providing you do not need to finish the move on the unit pg31. So as long as the knights in the diagram do not touch the enemy unit when wheeling, they can charge

However, the doubt is, can they pass through a friendly unit that is in combat when wheeling.

Page 39 the interpenetration is not possible if the unit that needs to be passed through is in close combat or giving support.

So does temporary overlapping a friendly unit when wheeling class as interpenetration?

Thanks

[Neep]

There is some suggestion here: https://www.artdelaguerre.fr/adlg/v3/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10428&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 that this is being considered, but till it is added to the errata or published by the rule committee, you are on your own.

[KevinD]

I think the rule ought to be that only the front edge of the moving unit matters during the move, provided the entire unit will fit after the move and that no part of the moving unit was ZOCed prior to moving by a different enemy (remembering that only the MTE actually exerts a ZOC).

This thing about rear outside corners becoming entangled by other units, ZOCs or terrain during a wheel, when the front edge is not, is silly. Real units wheeling 45 degrees wheeled with rear ranks wheeling in turn as they passed the point the front ranks started their wheel (or some approximation thereto for less drilled troops), not by having rear ranks racing off at an oblique angle 90 degrees away from the direction of the front rank’s travel.

[Andy Fyfe]