Art De La Guerre

[stuuk]

It seems that a unit supporting a combat could move in its movement phase to take advantage of this rule if it is not engaged to its front and attack the enemy to its flank, is that correct?

However, a flank charge is only possible if some part of the units base starts behind the front of the enemy which it would not if the unit were previously supporting, so I'm unsure what this rule means.. anyone?..

[kerrakoze]

[sebastosfig]

A unit can give support when:
- in contact corner to corner
- or in flank to flank contact.

in the latter case, you can then turn and flank him.
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[chris6]

Wait a minute...

As far as I see the rules its not that easy. It will take 2 of your own phases to get the flankattack.

In your example we have one unit supporting the other so they have to be in corner to corner AND aligned. This means the supporting unit can NOT turn to make a flankattack because its not behind the frontline o fthe enemy.

But the sup.unit can advance a little, costs and CP, now it is still supporting the mainfightingunit because it is in side to side contact with the enemy fighting to its front.

In your next turn, not in the enemys!, the sup. unit can turn to make the flankattack, and the enemy will loose his fighting factor and a cohesion.

But all this takes 2 of your own phases and only happens if no other unit gets in contact with your sup. unit or exerts a ZOC to it.
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[sebastosfig]

Of course you are right. You need two of your mouvement phases to do that.
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[stuuk]

Thanks for the clarifications.

What is the reference to conforming about?
"[the supporting unit] can engage [in] the melee with a simple move, or by conforming if it was already in contact"

Clearly in the case we are discussing, the unit is supporting and in contact with the enemy - but I don't know why it would be able to conform?..

[chris6]

Which rule you are talking about here? Site? Bulletpoint?

BTW thats all true: A unit can engage into combat, or better move into a position to support the mainunit by spending a CP. In this case the unit you wants to move did not have any contact with the enemy.

Second, if the unit was already in contact with the enemyunit, probably touching the sideedge with its frontage after a following threw where its destroyed another unit, but not properly aligned corner to corner and frontedge to sideedge, it now can conform to the enemy it is touching by conforming in its own phase.

Pooohhh....i guess i am reaching the frontlines of my english abilities here...
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[stuuk]

Sorry, it's page 59.
Multiple opponents.
2nd Paragraph, line 8.

So it sounds like the rule is simply saying "if you end up in contact, but not in legal contact (such as corner to flank edge) then just conform for free"

Sound OK?

Thanks for persisting with the English