Art De La Guerre

Davros

Can someone confirm that bowmen charging light horse get the +1 for the first round of melee against mounted opponents (in addition to the +1 that they always get in melee against light horse)?

I cannot see anything in the rules that says the bowmen lose this first-round bonus because they are charging (as would be the case with, say, medium spearmen that have the missile-support capability. But I could well have missed something.

Thanks in advance.

Commodore · Post� le: Jeu Juil 21, 2016 5:17 pm Sujet du message:

I did not found any reference about charging or not charging condition for the bowmen +1 against mounted.
It only exist for support bonus (p18).
The support para says in note that bowmen do not apply support bonus because they have a specific bonus against mounted units on first turn.
According to this, my opinion is that a bowmen charging a LH get its +1 bonus on first turn.
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Davros · Post� le: Jeu Juil 21, 2016 7:17 pm Sujet du message:

Thank you Commodore

fdunadan · Tribun Inscrit le: 12 Juin 2009 Messages: 984

Error, Commodore.
it is stated in the FAQ that the +1 bonus for bower vs mounted is only if they receive the charge on their front. As it represents a defensive (and close range) firing, it cant be used if they charge a LH.
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Commodore · Post� le: Ven Juil 22, 2016 5:52 am Sujet du message:

lionelrus · Post� le: Ven Juil 22, 2016 9:45 am Sujet du message:

yes, this point is writen in rulebook, but in last page "notes about 3rd edition"page 235 in french version.
But commodore is forgiven, because is a sailor talking about land warfare, wich is very funny: can i give good advices about naval warfare? definitively not!
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Stephen · Post� le: Dim Juil 24, 2016 1:32 am Sujet du message:

On page 37 of the rules in the English version under Melee after a charge, the rule provides that units receive the benefit of certain capabilities which only apply in the first phase of the melee. The note on page 18 does not clarify the issue very much. The FAQ language is not very clear either.

On page 235 of the English version, the rules say "bowmen now have a +1 for the first phase of melee against mounted units."

So, once and for all, do bowmen get to add +1 to their melee factor if they charge mounted?

belinconnux · Post� le: Dim Juil 24, 2016 10:01 am Sujet du message:

Page 235!

What a big book Laughing

Shooters get a +1 bonus against mounted for the first melee round only if they receive the charge.
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Stephen · Post� le: Dim Juil 24, 2016 10:25 am Sujet du message:

Fortunately, there are a lot of pictures. I mostly only look at the pictures of the pretty little toys. Reading the whole book would require a huge commitment of my spare bathroom time.

Thank you for the speedy response.

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Stephen · Post� le: Dim Juil 24, 2016 12:24 pm Sujet du message:

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Stephen · Post� le: Dim Juil 24, 2016 12:38 pm Sujet du message:

I would delete my snarky response to footslogger if I knew how. It was a knee jerk post that I regret. All I could figure out how to do was to edit it by replacing it with a non-sequitur. Footslogger has my apologies. I need to wait a bit before turning the flames on in a post on the internet. I freely confess to being an ill mannered doofus. Embarassed

Stephen · Post� le: Dim Juil 24, 2016 12:58 pm Sujet du message:

Oops!

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