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Janos Hunyadi
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Inscrit le: 21 Oct 2016 Messages: 81
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Posté le: Mar Mar 14, 2017 6:32 pm Sujet du message: FLANK ATTACKS |
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This situation occurred during a friendly game last week.
Previous bound CAT B and the GENERAL had killed a legion. CAT B had stepped forward.
This bound, my auxiliary charged the general in the flank, Impact HC A had charged general in rear, and HC B had charged forward, and contacted CAT B in flank.
Now..., has HC B formed a legal flank charge on CAT B, and can it also provide support for HC A against the GENERAL, being in rear comer to front corner contact with HC B, and side edge contact with the GENERAL.
Dernière édition par Janos Hunyadi le Mer Mar 15, 2017 2:34 pm; édité 1 fois |
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madaxeman
Magister Militum

Inscrit le: 01 Nov 2014 Messages: 1599
Localisation: Londres Centraal.
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Posté le: Mar Mar 14, 2017 11:18 pm Sujet du message: |
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You don't fight against Generals unless they are included in a unit. _________________ www.madaxeman.com |
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JohnTheBoring
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Inscrit le: 15 Juil 2015 Messages: 83
Localisation: Wirral
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Posté le: Mar Mar 14, 2017 11:21 pm Sujet du message: |
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Yes
HC B has hit but cannot conform, so the Cataphract will conform to them next turn. It does support HC A. |
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Janos Hunyadi
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Posté le: Mer Mar 15, 2017 10:47 am Sujet du message: |
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Just added some direction arrows and info to diagram
Ref Rules Page 53 diagram top right, does not the generals unit behave like the enemy ZoC ?, and prevent contact ?
And madaxeman, yes it was an included general, and yes he did get blown away in one round , I also had my non-included general with HC A.
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1) If HC B had been farther forward and lost corner to corner contact with HC A, would it cease to give support to HC A ?. I am looking at unit A6 in top diagram on page 51 of the rules, as side edge contact alone is not enough. |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
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Posté le: Jeu Mar 16, 2017 4:44 pm Sujet du message: |
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JohnTheBoring a écrit: | Yes
HC B has hit but cannot conform, so the Cataphract will conform to them next turn. It does support HC A. |
If this is a non-legal flank attack (which is what it looks like) then it does not contact. There is no future melee either.
Agree if it is not in contact it does support. |
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Janos Hunyadi
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Posté le: Ven Mar 17, 2017 11:57 am Sujet du message: |
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Agree if it is not in contact it does support. |
so if HC B is not in rear corner to front corner contact with HC A, it still supports ? |
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alberto
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Inscrit le: 15 Nov 2015 Messages: 111
Localisation: trieste
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Posté le: Sam Mar 18, 2017 7:42 pm Sujet du message: |
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the flank contact is not legal and not have a combat ,HC b stay 1mm behind but support the attack vs Cat with General ; this unit have 1 disorder automatic and roll for survive the leader |
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Janos Hunyadi
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Posté le: Lun Mar 20, 2017 11:08 am Sujet du message: |
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ok, I am beginning to get confused
1) Do CATS A and C both provide support to CAT B ?
2) Does CAT D provide support to CAT C ? |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
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Posté le: Lun Mar 20, 2017 2:12 pm Sujet du message: |
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1 No (p 50 left column bottom part in bold). Unit A does provide support. C does not.
2 Yes (p 50 right column 3rd bullet from the top. Note these 3 bullets are read as "or" not "and") |
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Janos Hunyadi
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Posté le: Lun Mar 20, 2017 4:45 pm Sujet du message: |
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Ahh ok thanks so presumeably if CAT C had killed LEGION B, it could then support CAT B
Its odd that side to side contact counts but side to rear does not. |
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Hazelbark
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Posté le: Lun Mar 20, 2017 7:07 pm Sujet du message: |
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Janos Hunyadi a écrit: | Ahh ok thanks so presumeably if CAT C had killed LEGION B, it could then support CAT B |
Only in the succeeding melee turns, never in the current turn as all melees are simultaneous in the same turn.
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Its odd that side to side contact counts but side to rear does not. |
Perhaps, but that start to allow other undesirable geometry to start affecting the game. |
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