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daveallen
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Sep 21, 2017 4:23 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
I don't think A would need two pips or a commander for its second move.

What's different in Herve's version of the rule is that units can be picked up and dropped by a group during the movement phase.

So it looks like you can do:

1st cp move group AB to join C

2nd cp move group BC leaving A behind

3rd cp move C independently of B

4th cp move unit D to join B

5th cp move unit A

Strategist's cp moves cavalry group DB this being B's 3rd move.

Which is quite radically different to my previous understanding of the rule.

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MessagePosté le: Jeu Sep 21, 2017 7:37 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
In principle yes it seems so, though you would need to keep track of how many moves each unit had made, as well as using a lot of CPs to make all these moves.

Also the third move is going to be hard to pull off, since the commander needs to accompany the unit or group through all three moves to make a third move. Indeed, it could possibly be argued that the group has to remain intact through all three moves. Perhaps Patrick could confirm this?
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Sep 21, 2017 8:05 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Patrick doesn't need to confirm that the units have to be a group for all moves because we have Herve explicitly saying that isn't the case:

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Then if you move A&B against C to form a group, you can spend another CP to move B & C together for a second movement in the movement phase.


Yes, the commander would have had to have been with B throughout. Bear in mind that only B is making a 3rd move.
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Thanks Dave for changing the scenerio.
Just to make yours correct.
If you reread Hevre's scenerio, A does move three times, so will require the general just like your scenerio.
One or two cp for the third move is not always one as Hevre implied.
I just wanted it made clear it's more likely two cp because of unit type.
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MessagePosté le: Ven Sep 22, 2017 6:27 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Dickstick a écrit:
Thanks Dave for changing the scenerio.
Just to make yours correct.
If you reread Hevre's scenerio, A does move three times, so will require the general just like your scenerio.
One or two cp for the third move is not always one as Hevre implied.
I just wanted it made clear it's more likely two cp because of unit type.

I see what you mean now, the original was a bit confusing.

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