Art De La Guerre

[Hazelbark]

From FAQ

[Zoltan]

It's 3. The FAQ is clear. "The cost is fixed; +1 CP...".

A better English translation would have used the phrase "regardless of" instead of "whatever".

[ksnyder]

To explain the reason I (and I presume others) thought it would be +1 per move containing a difficult maneuver in a single phase is because while the FAQ uses the word "phase" in most phases of the game you will only ever be issuing one order per group due to proximity of the enemy. Because of this I read the FAQ considering the word phase not to be that important in the the FAQ question. I have a tendency to assume there might be translation issues too.

The example in the FAQ is of a single movement that contains more than one difficult maneuver. If the intention of the FAQ rule is to make it only +1 for the first move containing a difficult maneuver per phase I highly encourage a second example be added to the FAQ showing that happen. If it was intended to be +1 per move I would highly encourage removing the word phase from the FAQ.

[lionelrus]

It's 3.
Penalties applies on each move, and the exemple describes one move.
If impetuous made fisrt quarter turn and advance 2 ud, and after that made another 3UD advance, it's cost 2+2.
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[Ramses II]

Correct. 
The intent of the FAQ is to avoid over penalising unmanoeuverable units. 

[ksnyder]

Just to confirm because I feel the question was answered both ways.

If an unmaneuverable unit makes 2 separate movements, each containing a difficult maneuver (for example, MI Impetious make 1/4 turn and move 1 UD, then make a second movement of 1 UD followed by a 1/4 turn), the total cost of CP is...

1) 3 CP. 1 CP for each move, and +1 CP because one of the moves contained a difficult maneuver.

OR

2) 4 CP. 1 CP for each move and +1 CP for each move because each contained a difficult maneuver.


I understand that if the MI made a 1/4 turn with a 0 UD forward (which is two difficult maneuvers in the same move) then it is only +1 CP. The question mainly rests on whether the word "phase" in the FAQ is intended to imply you only pay +1 CP ONCE per phase, not once per move.

[ethan]

[ksnyder]

[Ramses II]

If the unmanoeuverable unit makes several difficult manoeuvres in two or three different moves during the movement phase, then it will incur +1CP in each move. 

So hypothetically, a group of Impetuous cavalry that makes three moves as follows incurs the following costs

1. right turn and move short
   1CP+1CP +1CP penalty total = 3CP
   
   
2. move short
   1CP +1CP penalty total =2CP
   
   
3. group makes a third move, a left turn and move short,
   1CP+1CP+1CP  +1CP penalty total =4CP

Ok?

[Hazelbark]

[Hazelbark]

[Ramses II]

Am rechecking with the TB, since the French FAQ also use the phrase “+1CP per movemement phase”, suggesting a total of one CP, not 1-3CP depending on the number of moves made. 

[Zoltan]

So....

Impetuous MI:

1. Make a quarter turn and move the permitted maximum of 1UD; costs 1CP +1CP penalty, total 2 CP.
2. Make a second move of 3UD straight ahead costs 1CP

Total CP required is 3 CP, n'est pas?

[Hazelbark]

[lionelrus]