Art De La Guerre

[navigator]

[i]Dan outlined the following......Let me step in here with a blunt clarification of what Lionel is saying.

You may not voluntarily reveal an ambush of a hesitant corps. p80. I know everyone suffering this thread gets that. The operative question is what is an available option before the corps has tested to see if it reliable or hesitant.

Therefore:
You should take the rule (p 80 right side bullets 1 and 2) to include a corps that has not yet tested. Meaning a "potentially hesitant corps" may not voluntarily reveal an ambush.

Lionel has articulated why he sees this in the rules

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]BUT this needs to be in an errata or amendment. It isnt a clarification it is an amendment of a clearly written rule....Tongue in cheek but seriously, i dont want to travel 1000s of miles (literally) to play a game when someone quotes a new rule that isnt in the rule book and is clearly not is what is written in the rule book

Issue an Errata please... cheers paul

[lionelrus]

Non, la règle est suffisamment claire et ne laisse place à aucune interprétation sur ce point.
En V3, il y avait de nombreuses "clarifications", en fait des reformulations. Du coup, la FAQ était plus longue que la règle.
Si vous avez des doutes, demandez à l'arbitre AVANT de faire un truc tordu ou incompris comment il considère la chose. Il est là pour çà.
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[navigator]

The rule as written in the rule book is clear that potentially unreliable corps which have not yet rolled a dice can place their ambush on table if an attacker moves close in bound one. That is my point. But hay ho .. this is in the english version it may be different in the french one. I will now have to read through all the other rule queiries on line to see what other rule changes have been made that i dont know about!

[Hazelbark]

[Mike Bennett]

[lionelrus]

On ne peut pas révéler d'embuscade, ni faire quoi que ce soit sur un corps avant de lancer le dé. Voir les règles sur l'activation des corps.
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[Mike Bennett]

[Commodore]

FROM DT : According to p80 rule for unreliable corps and p78 revealing ambush rule conclusion is :
On the first turn, during the attacker movement phase, as an hesitant corps has not been tested, the defender cannot voluntary reveal hesitant corps ambush if ennemy is coming within 4UD. No voluntary action can be undertake by an hesitant corps before the 1st die roll has been made, except those trigerred by ennemy action (i.e any action making an hesitiant corps reliable).
Considering ambushes for the 1st turn, attacker movement phase, a player can voluntary reveal an ambush if it belongs to a non-hesitant corps.
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[Snowhitsky]

[Neep]

Thank you for that, Commodore.

If nine months ago the rules committee announced that page 80 section Hesitant corps bullet 1 should read "cannot shoot or move or voluntarily reveal its ambushes" and bullet 2 should be struck, the rules would be shorter and better, and we could have avoided some unnecessary acrimony.

Please, please, find someone with the ability to make your post (and the prior DT ruling) "sticky". It is very hard for customers to find these updates otherwise.

[Dickstick]

[Dickstick]

So in conclusion an allied or unreliable Corp is a hesitant Corp until it's not.
So it's first roll it to see if it is STILL hesitant and not to see if it is hesitant.

Perhaps that's how it should have been written in English.

Only the French can know if that's what is written in French.
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[lionelrus]

[lionelrus]

[Dickstick]