Art De La Guerre

Neep · Prétorien Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 298

But Mark, what the rules actually say is " never...move into contact with the enemy to provide a support".

I find myself vociferously arguing while agreeing with Tim that it is a very minor issue. There is no need to try and tease out intent. The rules are straightforward and the rare advantage they may provide not bothersome. Although I do think the rules on page 51 and 61 should be extended to Expendable Levy. Without the Multiple Attack possibility, there would be very, very little to gain by spending the CP to move them in melee support (from contact).

SteveR · Signifer Inscrit le: 21 Mar 2018 Messages: 369

Perhaps the way to look at this is that my case is only even possible if the enemy unit concerned is not mounted on a 1 UD by 1 UD base. Given that one principle of the rules is that is how the author intended basing to happen that would prelude the maneuver as the levy/artillery/War Wagon would make contact when they moved up.

But the problem with this rationalization is that I don't think people are going to let my heavy foot impetuous which has destroyed enemy heavy infantry and pursued 1 UD wheel 90 degrees and conform onto the flank of the enemy heavy infantry it is next to. Which it could do if the enemy HI was on a 1 UD by 1 UD base.

I think that on the whole the rules have expendable levy exactly right. No changes needed. They act as speed bumps and are fun. And with a group of 4 in the past week every game I have seen has resulted in 3 of them dying quickly and 1 getting lucky. Which is fun no matter which side you are on. Of course the answer is to always ignore them, and of course that is always easier said than done. Dan are you really suggesting that at mediocre and 1 point they are overpowered?

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KevinD · Post� le: Dim Mar 24, 2024 6:48 pm Sujet du message:

Since I would pretty much always take 3-4 if allowed (and I hint 4 is the max ever allowed), I would conclude they are overpowered for their price. 3-4 points for a mobile obstacle with a ZOC that will delay the enemy 1-3 turns and might inflict a casualty is a pretty good deal for most armies. Now maybe a massive army with 30-40 units wouldn’t necessarily benefit from these, but most others would.