Art De La Guerre

Ramses II · Post� le: Sam Oct 30, 2021 7:51 pm Sujet du message:

It is the official answer from El Kreator himself. I am merely his humble messenger.

It is not posted elsewhere, and since this is a clarification rather than some mistake in the rules text, I do not think it will be added to the ‘Errata’.

Za Otlichiye · Post� le: Sam Oct 30, 2021 7:59 pm Sujet du message:

There seems to be a lot of confusion about who is saying what in these last few exchanges.

So do I understand correctly?

An Impetuous unit suffers the Unmanoeuvrable penalty if it (counts as) having moved less than its movement allowance as an individual unit. So while the group movement allowance might be less because some units are in the wrong zone, or some are in or enter the wrong terrain, or some are just slow, it makes no difference. If the Impetuous unit counts as moving less than its movement allowance as an individual unit, the group suffers the penalty.

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lionelrus · Post� le: Sam Oct 30, 2021 8:52 pm Sujet du message:

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AlanCutner · Post� le: Dim Oct 31, 2021 1:27 pm Sujet du message:

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Zoltan · Post� le: Dim Oct 31, 2021 6:27 pm Sujet du message:

At the start of my move phase I have a group of 2 HI: 1 is inside the Operational zone; 1 is outside.

I can:
- move the whole group 2 UD for 1 CP (the unit outside the Operational zone is part of a group that has a unit inside the zone - the group’s max move is therefore 2 UD),

or split the group and move the unit inside the Operational zone 2 UD for 1 CP and the unit outside the zone 3CP for 1 CP (total of 2 CP spent).

AlanCutner · Post� le: Dim Oct 31, 2021 6:49 pm Sujet du message:

Ramses II · Post� le: Dim Oct 31, 2021 7:19 pm Sujet du message:

Forgive me, but I think you may all be wrong here.

Where there are units with different movement allowances in a group, the group moves at the slowest rate - agreed.

But where the group contains impetuous units that are moving less than their maximum allowance, then moving a group containing some Impetuous units in this way costs 2CP (or even 3CP) unless it makes contact with the enemy.

This reduction in movement allowance may be caused by penalising terrain or having units in different zones as outlined above.

Zoltan · Post� le: Lun Nov 01, 2021 6:09 am Sujet du message:

So a group consisting of HI and an elephant, where the elephant is within 4UD and the HI are outside 4 UD, can move a maximum of 2 UD as a group. That means the elephant will be moving short. The group move will cost 2 CP.

Dickstick · Post� le: Lun Nov 01, 2021 7:14 am Sujet du message:

Ramses II · Post� le: Lun Nov 01, 2021 2:54 pm Sujet du message:

Correct DS.
Life is (relatively) easy where the impetuous units in a group have the lowest movement allowance, while things become ‘more complicated’ the other way round . .

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