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vexillia
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 Posté le: Ven Sep 27, 2024 8:30 am Sujet du message: Timing of LI destruction |
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I was having a bad day and in a game last night and this happened:
Opponents move | Enemy LIght horse caught some evading LI in the rear | Moving right to left:
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LI destroyed, second LI disrupted, first LI removed and enemy LH decides to pursue:
Second LI is routed but not until the end of melee phase in the following move (mine). So far so good, but the move has left the enemy LH vulnerable to my Cv as follows:
How should we have resolved this? The LH can't break off etc as it's not its move so I see a number of questions arising:
- Can the LH flee before the Cv contact it? Against this, it is in combat until the end of the melee phase.
- If the LH does flee is the LI still destroyed? (Probably)
- If it stands, or can't flee due to blocking enemy, how do we fight the melee?
I see two options for the melee:
- Option 1 - ignore the routed LI and fight as a standard flank attack on the LH.
- Option 2 - fight as if LI were the primary unit, with them turning even though routed, with Cv in melee support.
Thoughts please.
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Andy Fyfe
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| Posté le: Ven Sep 27, 2024 9:50 am Sujet du message: |
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| LI is not automatically routed by LH. |
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vexillia
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Andy Fyfe
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| Posté le: Ven Sep 27, 2024 11:33 am Sujet du message: |
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I don't like the ruling that units destroyed in the pursuit phase are not removed until after the end of the following melee phase.
We remove them at the end of the pursuit phase. |
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Three
Prétorien
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| Posté le: Ven Sep 27, 2024 1:29 pm Sujet du message: |
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| The LI can evade from the pursuit, pg 69, left hand column, Contacting new enemies, 2nd bullet point. |
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Neep
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| Posté le: Ven Sep 27, 2024 3:03 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Andy, that is certainly my reading of the rules. If the unit is routed in the pursuit (ex: a multiple attack) then it is removed, but there is "no subsequent pursuit". If the unit is still standing, then the melee is resolved in the next melee phase. |
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Hazelbark
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| Posté le: Ven Sep 27, 2024 9:16 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Andy Fyfe a écrit: |
I don't like the ruling that units destroyed in the pursuit phase are not removed until after the end of the following melee phase.
We remove them at the end of the pursuit phase. |
You should not like it. They die immediately and are removed immediately. |
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Andy Fyfe
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| Posté le: Mer Oct 02, 2024 9:24 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Hazelbark a écrit: | | Andy Fyfe a écrit: |
I don't like the ruling that units destroyed in the pursuit phase are not removed until after the end of the following melee phase.
We remove them at the end of the pursuit phase. |
You should not like it. They die immediately and are removed immediately. |
I am very glad to hear that Dan! |
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Hazelbark
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| Posté le: Mer Oct 02, 2024 11:03 pm Sujet du message: |
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| And by remove immediately i mean in the rout phase right then. |
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