Art De La Guerre

Andy Fyfe · Auxiliaire Inscrit le: 14 F�v 2024 Messages: 88

Hi Guys,

This has probably been answered before (apologies if I have missed it).

The rules state (page 10):

The units comprising a group must be in contact with adjacent units of the group by their lateral or frontal edges and with one corner of their frontal edge. They must also be facing in the same direction.

The example picture then states:

B1 cannot form a group with A2 because the units are not aligned corner to corner.

So which is it; in contact with one corner of your front edge or aligned corner to corner?

I take it there has been some sort of ruling about the light infantry stands that get placed in front of the group line and yet still count as part of the group (although not aligned by a front corner, front edge or lateral edge?

What about a column of units a single element wide?

Andy

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1671

One unit behind another lined up, has a front edge and corner in contact with the unit in front of it.

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A column is a group.

So a LI can be on the front of the group. like an outcropping.

IIRC there was a version in WRG DBX or such that said the frontline had to be the width. But that is not written in the rules here.

Zoltan · Post� le: Lun F�v 03, 2025 3:36 am Sujet du message:

Andy it's a three criteria test for each unit:

1. Is the unit in contact with a friend by its side (lateral) or front edge?
2. Is one of the front corners of the unit in contact with the friend?
3. Are the units being considered facing in the same direction?

As illustrated in the diagram, in contact with is the short-form of "touching and perfectly aligned with corner to corner". A picture paints a thousand words etc etc.

Accordingly, B1 fails the criteria 1 test with respect to A2.

Andy Fyfe · Auxiliaire Inscrit le: 14 F�v 2024 Messages: 88

Andy Fyfe · Auxiliaire Inscrit le: 14 F�v 2024 Messages: 88

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1671

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1671

Zoltan · Post� le: Lun F�v 03, 2025 6:24 pm Sujet du message:

Or to rephrase Dan’s response, the unit behind the LI is in aligned front edge and corner contact with the LI. Thus the unit behind is in a group with the LI.

We simply don’t need to “prove” that the LI is in a group.

Andy Fyfe · Auxiliaire Inscrit le: 14 F�v 2024 Messages: 88

Neep · Signifer Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 313

The rules are not mathematically precise. The two unit column is not a group by the RAW text because the unit in front does not have a front corner touching.
It is generally understood that units can group so long as one lateral or breadthwise edge is in proper contact, i.e heavy foot and El as: