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Rafa Tortosa
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Inscrit le: 25 Jan 2015 Messages: 303
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Posté le: Mer Juil 16, 2025 3:44 pm Sujet du message: Dune and LI ZOC |
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Hello,
Please, do the Light infantry ZOC over medium camels in dunes?
And can stand in combat if medium camels charge them?
Thank you very much in advance |
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lionelrus
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Localisation: paris
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Posté le: Mer Juil 16, 2025 4:25 pm Sujet du message: |
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yes and yes _________________ "Quand on a pas de technique, faut y aller à la zob"
Perceval à Yvain et Gauvain. |
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KevinD
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Posté le: Mer Juil 16, 2025 4:26 pm Sujet du message: |
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1. Do the Light infantry ZOC over medium camels in dunes?
Yes.
2. And can stand in combat if medium camels charge them?
Yes. |
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Hazelbark
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Posté le: Mer Juil 16, 2025 4:31 pm Sujet du message: |
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All the references are to the camels not being effected. So I would assume LI can stand.
Note p64, "mounted units" last bullet. It says including camels do not automatically destroy LI.
So i believe the LI can stand.
As for the LI ZOC. That is unclear. I could see it ruled either way, but i would say YES, the ZOC does apply to Medium camels. p 38, 3rd bullet. Since the MC do consider the dune rough for movement (p72). |
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KevinD
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Posté le: Mer Juil 16, 2025 5:38 pm Sujet du message: |
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1. The related question is light infantry in Brush. Camels treat this as open, but Light Infantry do not.
Do LI in Brush have to evade vs MCm or Cataphract Camels?
I would suggest they do not as LI treat it as rough and do not have to evade in rough. The Camels treat it as open so do not suffer movement or combat penalties in it.
2. BTW, what about Cataphract Camels or LC on Camels in Dunes or Brush. I would suggest they treat it the same way as MCm as the wording on pp. 64, 71 and 72 simply reiterates what all the relevant points regarding MCm on p 15. (Note that Cataphract Camels would be really slow in dunes as they only move 1 in Rough.) |
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Ramses II
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Inscrit le: 17 Juil 2015 Messages: 1246
Localisation: London
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Posté le: Mer Juil 16, 2025 8:43 pm Sujet du message: |
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KevinD a écrit: | 1. The related question is light infantry in Brush. Camels treat this as open, but Light Infantry do not.
Do LI in Brush have to evade vs MCm or Cataphract Camels?
I would suggest they do not as LI treat it as rough and do not have to evade in rough. The Camels treat it as open so do not suffer movement or combat penalties in it. | Agreed. P47 troops that must evade states that LI must evade if attacked in the open. So if in Brush they do not have to evade.Â
Citation: | 2. BTW, what about Cataphract Camels or LC on Camels in Dunes or Brush. I would suggest they treat it the same way as MCm as the wording on pp. 64, 71 and 72 simply reiterates what all the relevant points regarding MCm on p 15. (Note that Cataphract Camels would be really slow in dunes as they only move 1 in Rough.) | It seems reasonable to treat all camels the same. Let’s check with El Creator. |
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madaxeman
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Inscrit le: 01 Nov 2014 Messages: 1628
Localisation: Londres Centraal.
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Posté le: Mer Juil 16, 2025 8:50 pm Sujet du message: |
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Ramses II a écrit: | KevinD a écrit: | 1. The related question is light infantry in Brush. Camels treat this as open, but Light Infantry do not.
Do LI in Brush have to evade vs MCm or Cataphract Camels?
I would suggest they do not as LI treat it as rough and do not have to evade in rough. The Camels treat it as open so do not suffer movement or combat penalties in it. | Agreed. P47 troops that must evade states that LI must evade if attacked in the open. So if in Brush they do not have to evade.Â
Citation: | 2. BTW, what about Cataphract Camels or LC on Camels in Dunes or Brush. I would suggest they treat it the same way as MCm as the wording on pp. 64, 71 and 72 simply reiterates what all the relevant points regarding MCm on p 15. (Note that Cataphract Camels would be really slow in dunes as they only move 1 in Rough.) | It seems reasonable to treat all camels the same. Let’s check with El Creator. |
Personally I'd be tempted to go with the blindingly obvious common sense approach of regarding all troops who are mounted on camels as being subject to the rules for troops mounted on camels, and just let Herve enjoy his summer holiday.... _________________ www.madaxeman.com |
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Ramses II
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Posté le: Mer Juil 16, 2025 9:05 pm Sujet du message: |
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Point taken.Â
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