Art De La Guerre

[ethan]

Two Impetuous knights are in a position after I have made my controlled moves to charge an enemy light horse.

Do both knights have to make an uncontrolled charge or after one of them charges and the light horse evades does the other knight then not make a charge?

Can I choose to have them charge as a group so one does not get left behind?

[Commodore]

Several solutions:
you have at leats 1 CP remaining and you can spend it to charge with both knights. The first one will contact the target and conform, the second will move to an overlap position. This is a 1 CP cost move. (group move)
You have no more CP remaining. After all normal moves you may decide to move your impetuous knights in any order. The first one move to contact as above and the second move to an overlap position. in the following combat, a -1 penalty will be applied. the knigths keep their impact and charge bonus.
You have no more CP remaining but the target is in front on the knights at 1 MU. It is a charge at 0 CP cost.
Remember that impetuous units move after all normal moves. You may provoque their target evasion so that they are no more impetuous at the end of the mouvement phase.
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[ethan]

If there are two impetuous knights potentially targeting a single LH and the first knight to go impetuous causes the LH to flee out of range of the second knight, is the second knight still impetuous?

[Thomas]

No.
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[chris6]

But, as far as i understand the rules, the 2 impetous knights can charge as a group, so the evading LH do not break the group of the 2 knights?

[Thomas]

Hello Chris, .
after having spent all your PC, you have to move impetuaous units.
if these are a group, they have to charge in a group against the LH.
if they aren't grouped, one charges and the other must check his impetuous status due to the fleeing LH or not.

you can also have spent one PC for one of your impetuous unit, forcing the LH to flee (or not).
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il n’y a qu’un maître sur la terre, c’est moi, Gengis Khan."

Gengis Khan

[chris6]

Thx for the quick response, that was exactly what i meant! Its always good to know that we do "at least" some parts right....

[Thomas]

Certainly, not "at least".
and , I think all your questions are interesting and "refreshing".
It is always good to find the adequate rule, and not simply believe the habits of practice
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"De même qu’il n’y a qu’un dieu invisible dans le ciel,
il n’y a qu’un maître sur la terre, c’est moi, Gengis Khan."

Gengis Khan

[chris6]

[Hazelbark]

[belinconnux]

Every impetuous units have to charge if it could or have to be stop (3 PC).
BUT have not to charge as a group. If you prefer each unit can charge alone.
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[Commodore]

[Thomas]

Back with this case.

p. 40, §2, dot 3 : "if the unit or group receives no order, all impetuous unit that are within their charge range (see exceptions p 41) MUST make an uncontrolled charge."

In our case of 2 impetuous cav facing a single LH, the 2 cav must charge together, in a group. Otherwise, if you choose to charge with cav1, the fleeing LH can place itself out of charge range of the cav2. At this moment, cav2 is no more able to charge the LH. And this is in contradiction with above rule ("MUST charge").

You can find an example of this case in picture p.42. Cav A and B charge as a group the facing cav X1.

It's another solution if the charged unit can't evade. In this case, you apply the rule p.40 §2 dot 6. ( order chosen) and dot 3 (MUST charge)...
You can find an example of this case in picture p.42. Cav E and F, even if grouped, charge alone. cav D was facing another target, so apply dot 4, 1.

Practically, during a game, I choose the order of the targets, eventually grouping or not the charging units.
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"De même qu’il n’y a qu’un dieu invisible dans le ciel,
il n’y a qu’un maître sur la terre, c’est moi, Gengis Khan."

Gengis Khan

[chris6]

Sounds very good to me! Thats how I would play it too.

[Hazelbark]