Art De La Guerre

[Hazelbark]

our local French player uses his French edition and we use our English edition of the rules.

page 36 "charge movement" 2nd sentence.

This explains charges and among other things confirms you can turn and charge. I am told the French rules say you turn and you cannot wheel but charge and conform to contact.


But the English rules have the end of the sentence "turn followed by an optional wheel."

This clearly suggests I can charge via a turn and wheel after turning.

comments?

[Rosbif]

The French version says: A charge consists of an advance towards the enemy with a wheel or a slide at the beginning of the charge. It is also possible to make a half-turn or quarter-turn just before a charge.

So, yes you can make a half-turn and then wheel when charging - the half-turn is done before the charge and the wheel is done at the beginning of the charge (i.e. the wheel is part of the charge, whereas the half-turn is not). The thing you are not allowed to do is to make a half-turn followed by a slide, which is why the wording was changed for the English version, but I don't know why the same wasn't done for the French edition.

[JLouis]

Paul is right. I played a game with Hervé Caille, and he gave me the same answer.

English rule is more accurate. I suppose he forgive to change the french rule or thought is was sufficently clarified by FAQ.

[Hazelbark]

excellent. Thank you.

[Rosbif]

[Jupiler]

Hi, I just want to clarify a point I have been discussing with my group.
I seem to understand by what you are saying that you can turn, then wheel and then charge, hence the whole thing you state 'at the beginning of the charge'
However other members of my group are of the opinion that you can turn then charge then wheel.

When the wheel is allowed matters since if you wheel at the beginning or at the end of the charge it leads you to two different positions in the board. In my case it was the difference between been charged at the flank or at the front of my unit.

So, can you wheel at the end of the charge? For that matter can you wheel at any other point during the charge except from the beginning?

Thanks

[Hazelbark]

Normally you declare a charge, wheel and execute it

So if you are doing a quarter or half turn, then your charge. You are asking after the turn may you wheel. Correct?

[Thomas]

Hi Jupiler,
Welcome in ADG's forum.
One wheel is allowed at the beginning of the charge.
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[Rosbif]

[chris6]

Yes, a wheel is only allowed at the beginning of the charge move.

But, after you contacted their maybe a conform move to make the full contact which includes a move similar to a wheel.

Anyway the decision if its a front or a side charge is only defined by the starting position of the charger. Read the point making correct contacts.

[Jupiler]

[Jupiler]

[Hazelbark]

[chris6]

Me either but did not wanted to answer because of thinking its my fault...

[Jupiler]