Art De La Guerre

[GW]

Is a unit in terrain when;
1) any part of its base is in it or;
2) only the front edge is;
3) most of the base is;
4) something else?
Although 1) seems to implied but it does not seem to be clearly stated anywhere.

[eudes]

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[footslogger]

Philosophically, it's in when any part of it is in. But whether it is penalized or benefits depends on the situation.

For example, to benefit from cover, the line of sight has to pass through the terrain giving cover.
To be penalized in shooting, any part of the front edge has to be in the terrain, so you can be in the terrain but not penalized if your front edge is not.
In melee troops are at a disadvantage in rough and difficult if any part of the base is in rough or difficult.

[Ramses II]

I agree FS, it depends upon the situation.

1) For movement, you are penalised when any part of the unit is in terrain. (p27 movement distances, 2nd bullet)

2a) When shooting at something, you are penalised because you must draw a line from each front corner to part of an edge of the opposing unit. (p47, LoS and p48 terrain cover)

2b) When being shot at, the opponent may not be penalised if he can shoot at part of an edge that is in the open (ie can draw a line from his two corners to that part of the edge that is in the open)

3) In melee, the terrain modifiers apply if any part of the front edge is in terrain. (p57, terrain modifiers).
BUT the enemy unit may not be forced to conform into terrain (p52 Conforming), in which case it may force your unit to conform out of the terrain (p54, unable to conform - diag)

[GW]

Thanks for clarification. Although bullet 2 p27 does not precisely define when a unit is in terrain. Is the English version different here?

[footslogger]

[GW]

[AlanCutner]

I think thats dancing on the head of a nail! Even if the english isn't grammatically correct the meaning is clear.

[Ramses II]

Perhaps I should have said
1) A unit is penalised where any part of it is in terrain, or would enter, pass through or exit terrain at any time during its movement.

[Hazelbark]

For purposes of moving page 27 defines terrain perfectly clear.