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AlanCutner
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 13, 2017 9:54 pm Sujet du message: Flank March |
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The rules state a player dices for flank march arrival in each movement phase. Is this both their own and their opponents movement phases? Its not clear. |
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Hazelbark
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Posté le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 2:53 am Sujet du message: |
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It is during the flank march players turn. |
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Commodore
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Posté le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 5:43 am Sujet du message: |
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And it is the first die to roll at the mouvemet phase beginning _________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead"
Cdr Farragut,Mobile 1864 |
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Ramses II
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Posté le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 9:03 am Sujet du message: |
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As Commodore says, at the beginning of your own movement phase you should make the die roll for your corps that is Flank marching.
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You can also hide a small corps in ambush under certain circumstances. It is perfectly legal (and even recommended) to pretend this is 'flank marching' by throwing it's dice first and not using any pips (until you throw a "5" or "6" of course). Done correctly, this can spring a nasty surprise.
Also remember that your army break point is determined by those units that are visible on-table, so exclude anything that is flank marching or in ambush. It is perfectly legal to send half of your 24 point army on a flank march, but until it arrives on-table your army breaks at 13 points not 25. |
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AlanCutner
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Posté le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 9:50 am Sujet du message: |
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Thanks for the replies. It is as I thought. But it came up in a game yesterday, and as the rules are written I couldn't contradict how my opponent read the rules - as dicing in every movement phase regardless of which player turn.
Could this be added to the official clarifications? |
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madaxeman
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Posté le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 2:59 pm Sujet du message: |
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I'm not sure anyone really wants to go down the Barkerese rabbit hole on this one...
It's a command roll. You do it in your own turn. As has been the case for all wargame rules since time immemorial.
Otherwise we are leaning into "there are no rules saying you cant use weighted dice" territory _________________ www.madaxeman.com |
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AlanCutner
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Posté le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 3:52 pm Sujet du message: |
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The rule is "At the beginning of each movement phase......". It does not refer to it as or replacing the command roll. Nowhere is there anything stated to limit which movement phase. I think an umpire would struggle to argue against dicing on every movement phase, ie own and opponents.
So its not a clarification on something thats not written or is as blindingly obvious as 'weighted dice', but actually requires further wording to make clear its limited to the players own movement phase only. |
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Dickstick
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Posté le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 7:37 pm Sujet du message: |
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Since when do you dice for any command in your opponents turn!?! _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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AlanCutner
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Posté le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 8:40 pm Sujet du message: |
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But my point is that the rules don't describe it as the command dice roll. Its a dice roll for a flank march. And as written that dice roll could be in both players turns. |
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madaxeman
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Posté le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 11:13 pm Sujet du message: |
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AlanCutner a écrit: | But my point is that the rules don't describe it as the command dice roll. Its a dice roll for a flank march. And as written that dice roll could be in both players turns. |
p26
- Game Turn - each turn is divided into two phases, each player moves in their own phase.
- Movement. First para. "hidden corps (ie ...making a flank march), they must be activated before the others".
So, as per p26 each players phase includes dicing for a flank march.
Does that cover it? _________________ www.madaxeman.com |
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AlanCutner
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Posté le: Sam Juil 15, 2017 4:23 pm Sujet du message: |
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Perfect! |
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