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AlanCutner · Tribun Inscrit le: 03 Nov 2014 Messages: 747 Localisation: Scotland

Cavalry without impact get a +1 in first phase against MI. Do they also get this against LMI? Factors against LMI and MI are specifically seperately stated in every other case.

fdunadan · Tribun Inscrit le: 12 Juin 2009 Messages: 984

they get the bonus versus MI and LMI
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ethan · Signifer Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 354

This is in the FAQ, but LMI are a sub-category of MI (look at the troop descriptions in the front of the rules).

Laurence · Archer Inscrit le: 31 Mar 2017 Messages: 51

Ramses II · Post� le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 9:20 am Sujet du message:

Sorry Lawrence. Unfortunately, this is a common misconception. LMI is a sub-category of MI.

LMI are unarmoured missile troops so they need to be distinguished from their armoured close-quater MI brethren, but otherwise have the same formation density so they are treated the same in all other respects including the penalties for fighting cavalry

Laurence · Archer Inscrit le: 31 Mar 2017 Messages: 51

matthieu · Post� le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 3:20 pm Sujet du message:

LMI are LMI , not MI ...

Laurence · Archer Inscrit le: 31 Mar 2017 Messages: 51

Dickstick · Post� le: Ven Juil 14, 2017 8:32 pm Sujet du message:

I feal your pain
To the French this is simple in french.
To the English they are different beasts thus the different name.
LMI are MI except when they are not. But are MI = LMI ever?

If only MI was written instead of "MI, LMI" we would have consistency.
Instead we have the seed of confusion
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ethan · Signifer Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 354

I then refer you to the FAQ.

+1 bonus from mounted against MI and LMI
Q : If an impact Cv charges medium spearmen, it will lose the Impact. But does she then get the +1 bonus vs Mi
and LMi ?
A : No. This bonus doesn’t apply if the Cv already has Impact.
Q : Is the +1 bonus in the 1st round of the non impact Cv vs Mi/LMi still valid if the unit is attacked in the flank ?
Or if the unit conforms after a melee ?
A : No. Like the Impact capability, it is valid only from the front, and during the charge. Therefore, the
bonus can’t be used if the Cv is attacked from the flank, or if it conforms after a melee.
Q : Do we count this bonus in rough/difficult terrain ?
A : No. This bonus only counts if in open terrain.

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1669

AntiokosIII · Post� le: Mer Juil 19, 2017 4:02 pm Sujet du message:

War games rules don't destroy English. Wargamers destroy English. WRG rules were just a tool, that could be used for good or evil.
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daveallen · Post� le: Jeu Juil 20, 2017 9:15 am Sujet du message:

Dickstick · Post� le: Lun Ao� 07, 2017 6:15 pm Sujet du message:

[quote="Hazelbark"][quote="Dickstick"]
To the English they are different beasts thus the different name.
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WRG really did damage to English. But we also have an FAQ that has addressed this point specifically for quite a long time.[/quote]

Well two weeks later, I still find this funny.

An American "kettle calling the pot black"

The US has done more damage to English than WRG could ever do.

Any way the issue is LMI was defined more than 40 year ago as faster moving an less disordered troop type in terrain MI, not a looser fighting MI. I first read 4th edition WRG ancients at 16 so definition is older than that.

Old dog new tricks.
Redifining words long used is never easy or to be encouraged
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