Art De La Guerre

[daveallen]

So page 34 "Movements allowed in a ZoC" b.p.2 says a unit in or entering a ZoC is permitted to:

[fdunadan]

Yes it can !

the unit is closer, still in ZoC and with the same angle than before.
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[daveallen]

[Dickstick]

For me alignment is about parallelization of front faces no parallelism of sides faces
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[fdunadan]

in French "alignement" means you became more parallelle, there is no incidence on the percentage of front you have in the ZoC.
in the exemple, Red as advanced but has stayed in the same angle. it is a legit move as "advance" toward the ZoCing unit without exiting the ZoC.

in the other topic, when Red makes his 90° Wheel, it is not legit as he should stop Wheeling as soon as his front became parallelle to Blue's front (that's the "align with the most threatening ennemy" move)
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[daveallen]

[Snowhitsky]

Can't do it because red unit's front left corner is moving away from the ZOC.

This is the line from the rules I used for my interpretation: "The unit cannot exit the most threatening enemy's ZoC or move away from it" (my emphasis).

Imagine blue unit has a friend (green unit) lined up with it on its right flank. According to the way you play it, red unit could move straight forward until enough of the unit was in green unit's ZOC which would then become the most menacing unit. Basically, that would allow you to ignore blue's ZOC to line up against green unit. With a shallower angle of approach you could move across a whole line of units until you reached the last one.

[daveallen]

Since more of the unit ends up in the ZoC than at the start, this strikes me as a an odd definition of "moving away from it [the ZoC]."

If, for instance, the red unit started its move at the final position shown in the diagram and then wheeled to be parallel with blue, this would be impossible because the outside corner of red was moving further from the ZoC.

Surely "moving away from it" refers to the enemy unit, not its ZoC.

Which I also argued at the time. But this isn't about that argument it's about making sure we all have the same understanding of a key rule.

[edit]
Also, the rule applies to units, not parts of units. Except where it says that no part of the front edge can move further from the enemy than at the start of the move.
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[madaxeman]

[daveallen]

[daveallen]

Or in this example the red unit can't make a quarter turn to align with the blue unit because that would mean the corner in the ZoC would move outside the ZoC.





We really need a clear statement on this rule.
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[Snowhitsky]

Aligning with the enemy is the exception but I agree: moving in ZOC needs to be made clearer.

[thierry.b]

[plefebvre]

I agree it is a complex question when the fronts of the units are not parallele.

The Technical board is currently working on a memo about this matter.

To understand shortly to the question :
In the first situation the movement is allowed because
-the front of the red unit get closer to the blue unit
-it doesn't move outside the blue ZDC for part of its front is still in blue's ZOC
- when it ends it's move it is not less aligned than at the beginning (to be aligned must be understood as being parallel with the front)

In the second situation , Red is allowed to make a quarter turn for
- it doesnt exit the ZOC of it's most threatening unit
- it's front edge get closer to blue
- it ends its move more aligned than at the begining

In these situations there is one good trick to check if the movement is allowed :
- at the end of the manœuvre , your unit must not have changed from a most threatening unit to an other,

The Technical Board
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