Maverick2909
Légionaire
Inscrit le: 01 Juil 2017 Messages: 103
Localisation: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posté le: Mar Aoû 08, 2017 12:52 am Sujet du message: Mediocre Pikemen or Heavy Spearmen |
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Hello gents! One of my more preferred lists I like to run is Scots Common (or Medieval Scots in ADLG). I am in a dilemma though, I can't for the like of me decide if I want to take the Scots Spearmen as Mediocre Pike or Heavy Spear! I am fairly new to list building and ADLG in general so I don't have a whole lot games under my belt yet, but half the fun is theorizing and list building.
So to do a bit of compare and contrast here:
Similarities:
1. Both cost 8 points
2. Both are HI
3. Both have Pr 1
4. Both have Co 4
5. Both have impact vs Mounted
Differences:
1. The Pikemen are mediocre
2. The Spearmen are only +1 vs most units
3. The Spearmen are more maneuverable
As far as I can tell, it essentially comes down to the Pikemen in combat are the same as the spearmen if I roll a 4+. The trade off is that the spearmen will be more maneuverable to turn on flanks and such.
My gut tells me that the mediocre Pikemen are the way to go, but what say ye?
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fdunadan
Tribun
Inscrit le: 12 Juin 2009 Messages: 984
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Posté le: Mar Aoû 08, 2017 9:37 am Sujet du message: |
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if they come Under heavy fire of Longbowmen, especially Elite, the mediocre Pk will be more likely to lose cohesion than the ordinary HI.
The longbow brings back protection to 0, so
vs ordinary HI: 18/36 to lose cohesion
vs mediocre Pk: 22/36 to lose...
and you will suffer 4 shots before coming to close combat... _________________ Audentes fortuna iuvat. |
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ethan
Signifer
Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 354
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Posté le: Mar Aoû 08, 2017 11:20 am Sujet du message: |
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I think mediocre pike is generally the "right" choice, though the vulnerability to shooting is something to carefully consider. |
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belinconnux
Magister Militum
Inscrit le: 09 Sep 2009 Messages: 5447
Localisation: BORDEAUX, near Vana
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Posté le: Mar Aoû 08, 2017 4:20 pm Sujet du message: |
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I think so. With PK you have +2 ans with sp +1. This is thé big différence! You can protect your PK from shoot. _________________ Hasta la victoria Siempre!
Peter Lord dobeul impact |
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AntiokosIII
Barbare
Inscrit le: 01 Aoû 2016 Messages: 23
Localisation: Salinas, California, USA
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Posté le: Mar Aoû 08, 2017 8:35 pm Sujet du message: I agree with Ethan |
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ethan a écrit: | I think mediocre pike is generally the "right" choice, though the vulnerability to shooting is something to carefully consider. |
Buy a few LI and screen the pike from shooting if it worries you. If the pike arrive indecent shape they will kill the longbow right to death. _________________ Tabletop miniatures are the only completely honorable form of warfare ever invented. |
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Pyrrhus17
Gladiateur
Inscrit le: 14 Sep 2016 Messages: 36
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Posté le: Lun Oct 09, 2017 7:23 pm Sujet du message: |
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Heavy spearmen one of the most common troop types in History ,Sadly pretty much anything else has more use than this troop type  |
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