Art De La Guerre

[AlanCutner]

I see an issue with the new FAQ "The Charge move of a group, some part which is not within range of the enemy"


In this picture the group including units A and B charge the group including unit C. B contacts C (and the units immediately next to these are also in contact). Unit A does not contact even if moved its full extent. Because it hasn't contacted it cannot conform to become a supporting unit.

If unit B used its entire movement allowance to contact then A and B would be a group at contact. Previously A would have conformed as part of that group to become a supporting unit. Now it does not as its not in contact with enemy.

It seems unfair that units can be placed to deny the enemy support in this way simply by positioning at an angle to the enemy. I would like to see a rule that units who do not contact enemy can still conform if
1. Their movement takes them past the front edge of the target group, and
2. They are adjacent to another unit of the charging group already allowed to conform.
I think that conforming would have to ignore effects of ZOC's (but open to argument).
This would allow end units of the group to maintain coherence with those that contact, and stop the nasty possibility of using angled single units to break enemy formations.

[Nightingale87]

I´m editing my previous comment. I´ve just read the new FAQs. Well. Then they can´t get into contact. It´s not wrong from a representation perspective. Oblique move was performed to stall the enemy and avoid contact all along the line. THough it was hard to execute.

But I would wait for a wiser answer.

[Dickstick]

What stops A from stopping when B first contacts then conforms with B anyway.ie your no 2 anyway.
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[AlanCutner]

[AlanCutner]

Another query.

Here the group A-D charges straight froward. Units A-C contact enemy so no question that they will conform, with A becoming a supporting unit. What about D? It hasn't contacted enemy so does it conform and ecome a supporting unit or not?

[plefebvre]

[plefebvre]

[AlanCutner]

[Ramses II]

Alan, the diagram in the FAQ has four units charging, two of which have reached the end of their movement capacity. These units may not ‘conform’ by wheeling forwards because that would exceed their movement capacity. (Cf the bottom p52, top p53). This is what the FAQ covers.

Here, in your diagram A can be conformed slightly backwards to line up with B since that is effectively reducing the distance the unit has actually moved, so the group stays intact with A in support to B, and this is true even if A is Impetuous!. 

Remember that conformation is only an adjustment mechanism so we have a fairly free hand in what is allowed. And that each unit beng conformed can be moved up to 1UD by sliding and or pivoting. 
I hope that makes more sense. 

[AlanCutner]

Thanks, that does make more sense. So as I now understand it a unit may conform if it has the movement distance to do so.

[Nightingale87]

No. A unit may conform if it has contacted the enemy. Or is part of a group who has contacted the enemy. But cannot reach an enemy with that conformation if it was out of reach before it started moving.

[AlanCutner]