Lord T
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 Posté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2020 12:16 am Sujet du message: Capturing Commanders |
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First time this has come up in our little ADLG community.
General has been dragged forward by an impetuous Knight. In the next turn the Knight is eliminated. The General has friendly troops within 5UD, but if he/she has to maneuver round enemy ZOCs and enemy units ends up 1 UD short of making it and is captured.
Did we play this correctly? The rules state that the commander ignores terrain (except impassable) and friendly units. So we assumed is still affected by enemy ZOC and can't pass through enemy units. |
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Zoltan
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| Posté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2020 9:54 am Sujet du message: |
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| A ZoC is a thing that affects enemy units. A commander base by itself is not a unit. Ipso facto a lone commander base ignores enemy ZoCs when measuring. |
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lionelrus
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| Posté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2020 11:19 am Sujet du message: |
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I agree with zoltan . The rules only give one condition: having one friend troop in 5UD.
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ethan
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| Posté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2020 1:26 pm Sujet du message: |
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| It is very difficult to kill a non-included general that isn't committed to combat. |
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Lord T
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| Posté le: Ven Mai 22, 2020 1:00 am Sujet du message: |
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| Zoltan a écrit: | | A ZoC is a thing that affects enemy units. A commander base by itself is not a unit. Ipso facto a lone commander base ignores enemy ZoCs when measuring. |
Why are commanders not units? On page 8 of the rules it says "diagram below shows how different types of units are represented both on the tabletop and in the various diagrams throughout the rules." and there is a picture of a commander in the diagram.
Later on the rules define "troops". It is possible there is a translation error somewhere. |
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Lord T
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| Posté le: Ven Mai 22, 2020 1:05 am Sujet du message: |
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| lionelrus a écrit: | | I agree with zoltan . The rules only give one condition: having one friend troop in 5UD. |
Hmmm, this does seem to be what the rules state. It doesn't actually dictate he has to be able to move 5UD to a friendly unit, just that there is one within 5ud.
In the incredible rare occurance of a commander being surrounded on all four sides, he could still get away as long as there was a friendly unit within 5 UD. (Yes I get that this is very, very unlikely to every occur.)
So we got it wrong. Dammit, owe my opponent an apology. |
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lionelrus
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| Posté le: Ven Mai 22, 2020 9:53 am Sujet du message: |
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| Lord T a écrit: | | Zoltan a écrit: | | A ZoC is a thing that affects enemy units. A commander base by itself is not a unit. Ipso facto a lone commander base ignores enemy ZoCs when measuring. |
Why are commanders not units?. |
Because they are not. ie, you can include a general in a unit and not a unit in another unit.
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