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Longtooth
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Inscrit le: 14 Oct 2014 Messages: 357
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Posté le: Sam Mai 08, 2021 7:07 pm Sujet du message: Scythed Chariots - Omission on Page 16? |
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Hi all,
Third bullet point under Scythed Chariots (page 16) says that:
Only javelin, missile support, stakes, elephant's impact abilities, together with fortifications or obstacles count against scythed chariots. All other special abilities have no effect.
Does this mean that armour has no effect against scythed chariots? if so, this exception is missing from the bullet point list on page 17 (under Armour and Heavy Armour) and the quick reference sheet. Alternatively, armour does apply (subject to furious charge rules) and armour should be added to the list of special abilities that apply against scythed chariots.
Thanks,
Jesse |
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Ramses II
Magister Militum

Inscrit le: 17 Juil 2015 Messages: 1237
Localisation: London
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Posté le: Sam Mai 08, 2021 9:29 pm Sujet du message: |
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Hi Jesse
As far as I am aware, armour is not effective, neither is Polearm, 2HW, Impact etc - in other words the only "special abilities" to consider against Scythed Chariots are those listed |
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Longtooth
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Posté le: Sam Mai 08, 2021 9:50 pm Sujet du message: |
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I hope this is the case. Scythed chariots would otherwise be useless against armoured foot with missile support.
Jesse |
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Mike Bennett
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Inscrit le: 11 Nov 2017 Messages: 583
Localisation: Carnforth, Lancashire, UK
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Posté le: Sam Mai 08, 2021 10:06 pm Sujet du message: |
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Longtooth a écrit: | I hope this is the case. Scythed chariots would otherwise be useless against armoured foot with missile support.
Jesse |
I think armour is not a special ability, so it counts, unless ferocious kicks in of course. |
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Ramses II
Magister Militum

Inscrit le: 17 Juil 2015 Messages: 1237
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Posté le: Sam Mai 08, 2021 10:36 pm Sujet du message: |
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All the items on pages 17 - 20 are grouped under the "Special Abilities" title at the top of p17, including armour . . . . |
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Mike Bennett
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Inscrit le: 11 Nov 2017 Messages: 583
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Posté le: Sam Mai 08, 2021 10:52 pm Sujet du message: |
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Ramses II a écrit: | All the items on pages 17 - 20 are grouped under the "Special Abilities" title at the top of p17, including armour . . . . |
I can see that now, so agree with you |
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madaxeman
Magister Militum

Inscrit le: 01 Nov 2014 Messages: 1599
Localisation: Londres Centraal.
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Posté le: Sam Mai 08, 2021 11:06 pm Sujet du message: |
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Ramses II a écrit: | All the items on pages 17 - 20 are grouped under the "Special Abilities" title at the top of p17, including armour . . . . |
And Scythed Chariots have Furious Charge... which means armour doesn't count, for two reasons, not just the one..... _________________ www.madaxeman.com |
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Longtooth
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Posté le: Dim Mai 09, 2021 7:45 am Sujet du message: |
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.......but only against foot units that do not have 'missile support' ability
So, unless Herve says otherwise, the list of exceptions on Page 17 and the quick reference sheet (under Armour and Heavy Armour) are incomplete. The armour special ability cannot be used against scythed chariot.
Jesse |
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madaxeman
Magister Militum

Inscrit le: 01 Nov 2014 Messages: 1599
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Posté le: Dim Mai 09, 2021 9:56 am Sujet du message: |
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Longtooth a écrit: | .......but only against foot units that do not have 'missile support' ability
So, unless Herve says otherwise, the list of exceptions on Page 17 and the quick reference sheet (under Armour and Heavy Armour) are incomplete. The armour special ability cannot be used against scythed chariot.
Jesse |
Minor details.... ! _________________ www.madaxeman.com |
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hcaille
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Inscrit le: 20 Mai 2008 Messages: 2547
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Posté le: Ven Mai 14, 2021 6:12 am Sujet du message: |
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I confirm : armour is no use against Scythed chariots. |
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Longtooth
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Posté le: Ven Mai 14, 2021 6:48 am Sujet du message: |
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Thank you, sir!
Jesse |
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Janos Hunyadi
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Posté le: Sam Mai 15, 2021 9:22 pm Sujet du message: |
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hcaille a écrit: | I confirm : armour is no use against Scythed chariots. |
Does a General in the defending unit count his +1 ? |
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Longtooth
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Posté le: Dim Mai 16, 2021 5:55 am Sujet du message: |
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I believe so, as it is only the combat factor that is reduced to zero. Modifiers for terrain, commander, uncontrolled charge, etc still apply.
Jesse |
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