Art De La Guerre

AlanCutner · Tribun Inscrit le: 03 Nov 2014 Messages: 711 Localisation: Scotland

Situation arose in a game at the 3T's in York.

A group of two units (A & B) charge an enemy unit so that the outside corner of A contacts the front of the target unit. During the charge unit B enters the ZOC of a separated enemy unit, in a legal fashion. The charging group now conforms to the contacted target. No problem for unit A (it made contact), but unit B unit would end up exiting the ZOC of the separated unit by conforming to a support position on the target unit. Is unit B allowed to conform or must it respect the ZOC it entered during the charge?

Note: the ruling was that unit B could conform, although the umpire was very unsure.

daveallen · Post� le: Ven Juil 02, 2021 7:01 am Sujet du message:

I can't see anything to cancel the effect of the ZoC on B. Sounds like the umpire used page 11.

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lionelrus · Post� le: Ven Juil 02, 2021 9:31 am Sujet du message:

at first, this depending if A and B are in theyr target's zoc or not.
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ethan · Signifer Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 347

P. 50 would seem to govern this.

lionelrus · Post� le: Ven Juil 02, 2021 12:46 pm Sujet du message:

Ethan is rignt. respecting Zoc is THE point of V4, the Grall, and so on.

In the case related, the firs question is if the unit charged by A and B exert Zoc on A and B. If yes, either go to the more threatening ennemy, and conform after contact, if not

A contacts 1, B would be in overlap position but is zoced by 2

A conforms to 1 and brake the group, B can stay or continuing the charge to 2 and then conforms toutou!

And now, i have to glue A's arm!
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daveallen · Post� le: Ven Juil 02, 2021 1:04 pm Sujet du message:

Thank you Lionel.

That's much clearer now.

Just one bit I missed - how did A and B change places? Twisted Evil

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Dickstick · Post� le: Ven Juil 02, 2021 2:35 pm Sujet du message:

Bit of arm twisting?
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AlanCutner · Post� le: Ven Juil 02, 2021 2:45 pm Sujet du message:

Thanks all.

lionelrus · Post� le: Ven Juil 02, 2021 6:15 pm Sujet du message:

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kevinj · Post� le: Mar Juil 06, 2021 9:27 am Sujet du message:

It's only a flesh wound...

lionelrus · Post� le: Mar Juil 06, 2021 3:38 pm Sujet du message:

Nostrebor · Archer Inscrit le: 20 D�c 2014 Messages: 62

Assuming B had the range would/could it continue and contact the unit

lionelrus · Post� le: Dim Juil 18, 2021 7:06 pm Sujet du message:

KevinD · Post� le: Sam Sep 18, 2021 2:51 am Sujet du message: