Art De La Guerre

Mike Bennett · Post� le: Dim F�v 20, 2022 4:32 pm Sujet du message:

A yes of course you are both right. I think that the front edge is ok, but the rest of the base behind does swing out as you say

Zoltan · Post� le: Dim F�v 20, 2022 6:36 pm Sujet du message:

If my LC are hard up against the game table side edge, do you say they can NOT wheel in towards the table’s centre because some part of their base arse will fall off the table edge as the base pivots in the wheel?

Surely I just measure from the outer wheeling corner and then place the LC in their desired new position, ignoring the table edge?!

Longtooth · Post� le: Dim F�v 20, 2022 8:31 pm Sujet du message:

.....surely that would be the logical conclusion?

Jesse

madaxeman · Post� le: Dim F�v 20, 2022 10:17 pm Sujet du message:

daveallen · Post� le: Dim F�v 20, 2022 10:36 pm Sujet du message:

Ramses II · Post� le: Dim F�v 20, 2022 11:22 pm Sujet du message:

I have asked Hervé to reconsider this.
The problem is that if A wheels immediately, the rear of the unit must inevitably move across the base of B as Dave has already noted. In order to avoid this, A must slide slightly away from B before it wheels.

This has two implications that may not be desirable

A must make a 1UD move straight ahead at some point. Given this will occur near units in combat, this additional movement may not be possible for some reason eg the presence of friendly units.
Sliding and wheeling will prevent A from wheeling to charge a different enemy, since a unit may not do both at the start of a charge. This may be a bigger issue

The "Pink" Herring of this occurring near a table edge or some obstacle should also be considered, though such situations are less pressing.

daveallen · Post� le: Lun F�v 21, 2022 12:11 am Sujet du message:

Thanks Gavin, good to know.

Dave
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Theodoric · Javelinier Inscrit le: 10 F�v 2022 Messages: 12

What is so hard to understand about Herve's common sense ruling?

The troops are simply following the troops in front, they don't teleport out to the side because our figures are based on fixed rectangular bases.

Theodoric · Javelinier Inscrit le: 10 F�v 2022 Messages: 12

https://rodwargaming.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/diagram-4.jpg

As can be seen in the above image the rear ranks do not jump out to the left as they complete their wheel.

daveallen · Post� le: Lun F�v 21, 2022 9:30 am Sujet du message:

Theodoric · Javelinier Inscrit le: 10 F�v 2022 Messages: 12

[Maybe read what Hervé wrote instead of inventing your own "rule"

Dave]

Herve has been consistent with the last bullet in the Wheel section on page 31.

This being that the part of the base that overlaps something else during a wheel does not affect the move, provided the move does not end overlapping the blocking unit, terrain, or table edge.

Very logical and easy to understand in my opinion.

vexillia · Post� le: Lun F�v 21, 2022 9:59 am Sujet du message:

daveallen · Post� le: Lun F�v 21, 2022 11:17 am Sujet du message:

daveallen · Post� le: Lun F�v 21, 2022 11:24 am Sujet du message:

Theodoric · Javelinier Inscrit le: 10 F�v 2022 Messages: 12

How is Herve's response the opposite to what I am saying, when he expressly permits the move!?!