Art De La Guerre

[Za Otlichiye]

This question has been kicked around FB and probably deserves a formal enquiry.

A unit finds itself in the improbable position of qualifying for simple support in one melee and melee support in another melee. Does the unit:
1. count for simple support in one melee and melee support in the other?.
2. count for simple support or melee support, but not both - player's choice?
3. count for melee support only?
4. count for simple support only?
5 something else?

[Dickstick]

I can't find a reason on p60 why it cannot count both.

What was the counter reasoning?
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Player 747 don't call me Jumbo

[Za Otlichiye]

Some thought "Support units can be either simple support or melee support" was an exclusive disjunction. Others felt "that are not in melee with another enemy" was perhaps intended as "not in melee or melee support with another enemy".

[Dickstick]

Up hill in a wood.
Does this only be uphill or in a wood but not both.?
A unit placed such is in both places and gets all plus and minus effects of being in both.

Melee and melee support or defined as different things on p60.

Simple support and melee are both support and are not in melee, only the main unit is in melee and it cannot give support.

A unit ca be in both support positions but it's rare as you implied.

"Intended" is conjecture and that will lead all rules to be binned eventually.
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Player 747 don't call me Jumbo

[Za Otlichiye]

All true but not enough to persuade the various, strongly held opinions, so a clarification would be helpful. The only route I know of is announcing it here and waiting patiently.

[Mike Bennett]

I do not have the rules to handle but from memory melee support counts as being in melee. E.g. if hit in the flank or rear a melee support unit takes a hit for being in melee, whereas a simple support unit does not.

[Zoltan]

P.60 General Rules para 1 makes it clear that units in contact with an enemy will fall into one of 3 categories:
1. In melee
2. In simple support
3. In melee support

Ipso facto a support unit is NOT “in melee”.

P.60 Melee and Support paras confirm that it is the main unit that is “in melee” and able to be supported by units NOT in melee.

[Dickstick]

[Hazelbark]

[Hazelbark]

[daveallen]

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