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Can one spontaneous charge into support?
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SteveR
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MessagePosté le: Lun Juil 04, 2022 11:40 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
I was afraid that this was going to confuse me.

lionelrus you have added a new condition to the answer of the earlier question - that the spontaneously charging unit end in "front edge" contact with an enemy.

What I thought the original question was is as follows

1
2

AB

1 and 2 are facing down. A and B are facing up and the diagram is not to scale as unit A is in the ZOC of unit 1 (as well as B being in the ZOC of unit 2)

and 1 is in front of A, 2 is in front of B in case the diagram does not post well.

B charges 2 spontaneously.

Then A wants to spontaneously charge. It is still in the ZOC of 1. 2 is now in melee, so per page 41 it COULD charge 1.

However it makes corner to corner contact with 2 before it reaches 1. It has now contacted an enemy.

1. May it stop there? Since it is contacting an enemy.

2. And if so, may it in addition move a bit further up, but not into contact with 1, as it will be providing simple support to 2 and will be spontaneously charging into a simple support position?
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MessagePosté le: Lun Juil 04, 2022 11:55 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Yes, I was afraid I would mess up the diagram.

The intent is that 2 is aligned with B and facing down
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MessagePosté le: Mar Juil 05, 2022 5:00 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
SteveR a écrit:
I was afraid that this was going to confuse me.

lionelrus you have added a new condition to the answer of the earlier question - that the spontaneously charging unit end in "front edge" contact with an enemy.

What I thought the original question was is as follows

1
2

AB

1 and 2 are facing down. A and B are facing up and the diagram is not to scale as unit A is in the ZOC of unit 1 (as well as B being in the ZOC of unit 2)

and 1 is in front of A, 2 is in front of B in case the diagram does not post well.

B charges 2 spontaneously.

Then A wants to spontaneously charge. It is still in the ZOC of 1. 2 is now in melee, so per page 41 it COULD charge 1.

However it makes corner to corner contact with 2 before it reaches 1. It has now contacted an enemy.

1. May it stop there? Since it is contacting an enemy.

2. And if so, may it in addition move a bit further up, but not into contact with 1, as it will be providing simple support to 2 and will be spontaneously charging into a simple support position?


A must charge 1 in spontaneous charge.
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MessagePosté le: Mar Juil 05, 2022 5:08 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
SteveR a écrit:
Yes, I was afraid I would mess up the diagram.

The intent is that 2 is aligned with B and facing down

It's variable, if i click on "citer" the "2" is well placed, but not if i only read.
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SteveR a écrit:
Code:
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 2

AB

C'mon people it's not that hard.
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MessagePosté le: Dim Juil 17, 2022 8:43 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Or even think laterally:

A.....1
B...2

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