Art De La Guerre

[Daveh]

I have a question, if my impact Cav pursue into either LMI or MI swordsmen, who are not fighting another enemy, do they get +1 in the 1st round of combat?

It is a new enemy, not a continuing melee - see p.60, General Rules, 2nd paragraph. Therefore, it must be the 1st round of a melee.
The impact doesn't count because it's a pursuit.
The +1 is shown as a combat factor on p.22.
The Melee Resolution on p.62 then says you compare the combat factors to achieve a differential.

Similarly do you recieve the +1 if impetuous troops pursue and end in coner to corner contact and you then cornform.

Is it possible we could get a definitive answer on this question from the author?

[KevinD]

[Daveh]

That makes sense otherwise they would be able to count if their opponent had stakes and the impact was cancelled.

[Hazelbark]

This has repeatedly been clarified. A pursuit into a new unit is not a 1st round benefits.

[Daveh]

Just so I know, where does it say that in the rules?

[madaxeman]

[Ramses II]

Ok, to be clear on this, we need to step back from the detail and read the definitions of the key actions.
If you sitting comfortably, then I will begin

• Contacting the enemy (p41) states
  A unit that comes into contact with a new enemy, even with a single corner contact, engages in combat with that enemy. The unit must then conform (see p
  50). Contact can take place in the following cases:
  
  • During a charge (see p 42).
    
  • When moving to contact an enemy already in
    melee to support a friendly unit (see p 60).
    
  • During a pursuit after combat (see p 69).
  
  
  
• CHARGE (P42) states
  Definition
  A charge is a move in which a unit engages in combat with an enemy. The units must contact the enemy with part of its front edge (even a single corner). The charge stops once contact with the target is made. The charging unit or group must then conform (see p 50). A charge allows units to claim those bonuses that are only valid during the first round of a melee
  
  
• PURSUIT (P69) states
  When a unit has routed all its opponents in melee, it can perform a pursuit at the end of the melee phase. Pursuit moves are conducted after routs. Only the phasing player’s units can perform a pursuit.
  [SNIP]
  
  Contacting new enemies
  Pursuit movement may bring the pursuing unit into contact with a new enemy
  • If the enemy does not evade, the combat will be resolved in the next melee phase. The combat will not be considered as a charge.

So in summary, units only get these 'extra' bonuses during the first round of a charge, and a pursuit is by definition NOT a charge.
(Neither is conformation after a melee).

[Daveh]

Thanks for that, I hadn't spotted the bit on p.42 - I'll shut up about this know and hang my head in shame in the corner ...

[Hazelbark]

[Black Prince]

If a unit pursues and contacts an enemy in the flank, does the enemy unit in it movement phase get to turn and conform to the pursuer's front edge before any melee is resolved?

[KevinD]

[Za Otlichiye]

It must turn. See page 52.