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MessagePosté le: Mer Juin 22, 2022 8:21 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Gentlemen, don’t forget the rules sequence is Movement (including evades and VMD), then Conformation. This provides several alternative results as noted by people above:
  1. The elephant could pay 1CP to wheel forwards through 90 degrees, breaking contact with the MC and charging to contact the LC (corner-corner). The LC may evade with the elephant following resulting in no melee but if it doesn’t, conformation would result in the elephant sliding back into contact with the MC on it’s right flank but facing (in melee with) the LC.
  2. The elephant could pay 2CP to turn. 
    • It may turn about to contact only the MC. The MC may evade (no melee etc), otherwise conformation will result in the elephant facing the MC with the LC on it’s left flank.
    • It may turn right; if the MC do not evade, the elephant conforms facing the MC flanked by the LC as above. If the MC evade, the elephant will charge the LC which may also evade.
  3. If no CP are paid, conformation will result in the elephant facing the MC with the LC on it’s left flank. In this case, the MC could then choose to evade, resulting in a melee between the elephant and the flanking LC - there is no ‘second conformation’ as some have noted above.  


Note
Options that result in a melee between the elephant and the MC are not defined as a “Charge†since the units start in contact.

The resulting combat factors will vary depending on the number and position of the units in the melee. 
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MessagePosté le: Mer Juin 22, 2022 4:04 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Remember, the El is already in contact with the MCav, so the rules on page 51 would apply. They specify conformance first, then evasion.

The El is free to charge a different unit to resolve the contact. The problems are: sliding along the front of the MCav; and honoring the ZoC of the MCav. Both those issues go away if the LH is the MTE. But the only way that would happen is if the MCav is deemed not to be "in front" of the El, and that probably is not the case.

Do note that the rules on page 41 about sliding along the front edge of an enemy to charge the MTE would then require either the ZoC of the MTE either projected beyond the intervening unit's ZoC (ex. the intervening unit is not corner to corner with the MTE, but rather partially front edge to the flank of the MTE.), or the ZoC of the intervening enemy was neutralized (ex. by another friendly unit attacking it in the flank or rear, etc.)
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