Art De La Guerre

Andy Fyfe · Vétéran Inscrit le: 14 F�v 2024 Messages: 164

Hi Guys,

This came up in a game last night.

An impetuous Med SW unit (A) was in support to a friendly unit to its right (B) and had another friendly Med SW unit (C) touching it to the left about half an UD ahead.

In front was an enemy LI unit (about half an UD away in support of the enemy facing C).

Unit A charged the LI unit which evaded short (2 UD) and unit A rolled for a normal pursuit.

Does A:

1. Stop after advancing half an UD as it is now in support of C?

2. Charge the evading LI and contact / destroy it?

We played that it stopped in the support position.

Does it matter that the charging unit is impetuous?

Andy

Zoltan · Post� le: Ven Mar 06, 2026 4:47 pm Sujet du message:

1. Is the enemy unit fighting C, a target of A's charge? No. (You can't engage in combat with an enemy already engaged in combat). The enemy LI is A's only target.

2. Did A's initial target (the enemy LI) evade? Yes. Follow p.43, section 6, bullet 6.

3. Does A "meet" an enemy unit along its charge path? See p41:
- front corner to corner contact is considered "contact", although only in the context of the contactor "engaging in combat" with the contacted (p41 general principles)
- so no, A does NOT "contact" a new enemy
- A is permitted to slide along the side edge of C's opponent (as it is already in melee)

4. Impetuous charger A must therefore continue its fully adjusted charge distance. It will contact, and destroy, the LI (p62).

Ramses II · Post� le: Sam Mar 07, 2026 8:39 am Sujet du message:

Agreed Zoltan. In summary if the impetuous MI are moving into contact they stop on contact. If however they are moving away from support they ignore the current melee and act as an impetuous unit, moving until they make contact with the target.

Andy Fyfe · Vétéran Inscrit le: 14 F�v 2024 Messages: 164

Neep · Signifer Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 398

I believe it has the choice if it is not impetuous, so long as it charges minimum distance.
The rules are very unclear on this. I have only found the diagram on page 44 to give any indication.
I think it only applies to group moves, where the target is initially unengaged. if you are in "wingman" position and are not in the ZoC of your MTE, you must support. Note that you could end up in support even though you never make physical contact, given the incomplete conformation rules and the definition of support position.

There is discussion of the issue buried here somewhere...