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Mike Bennett
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 Posté le: Lun Aoû 23, 2021 3:52 pm Sujet du message: How do you place a village |
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Views please, page 75 how to place a village. I think
Defender only and must roll a 4+
Defender chooses any flank sector, ie. 1, 3, 4 or 6
If there is a river or coastal area it must be placed touching it
“The player then rolls 1d6 to determine the position of the village within the sector as for other terrain(see below)lâ€. I assume that this is only relevant if there is no coastal area or riverâ€
No: placing other terrain also says “for each terrain piece selected except the roadâ€. I assume that given above this cannot apply to villages (nor coastal zone or river) |
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AlanCutner
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| Posté le: Lun Aoû 23, 2021 6:07 pm Sujet du message: |
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| I assume the dice for placement determines whether the village has to be at least 2UD from the base edge if there is already a coast. |
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Mike Bennett
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| Posté le: Lun Aoû 23, 2021 6:20 pm Sujet du message: |
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| AlanCutner a écrit: | | I assume the dice for placement determines whether the village has to be at least 2UD from the base edge if there is already a coast. |
good point, I had missed that one |
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daveallen
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| Posté le: Ven Oct 01, 2021 7:38 am Sujet du message: |
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Previously the positioning die roll for a Village determined only whether it was placed adjacent to the rear edge or at least 2UD forward. Now it can be placed in a forward position adjacent to the side edge, river or coast on a 1-4 and in a forward position at least 2 UD from the table edge on a 5 or 6.
I suspect we'll see many more Villages under V4.
Eh Mike? 
Dave
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Mike Bennett
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| Posté le: Ven Oct 01, 2021 7:46 am Sujet du message: |
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| daveallen a écrit: | Previously the positioning die roll for a Village determined only whether it was placed adjacent to the rear edge or at least 2UD forward. Now it can be placed in a forward position adjacent to the side edge, river or coast on a 1-4 and in a forward position at least 2 UD from the table edge on a 5 or 6.
I suspect we'll see many more Villages under V4.
Eh Mike?
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Well I have never used them before, and used them every time I defended at the LGT  . And I defended more often than I thought was fair with a 4 initiative  . NB this may not be a fair sample, as using a village was driven by my choice to use light infantry, not mediums, hence why I wanted to be sure in advance. As you say a change from V3, you were so convinced that I was wrong, your face was a picture when you checked the rules.
Ps if there is a coast or river they must touch even with a 5 or 6. As per Alan’s response, the die roll simply determines whether it can touch a rear base edge. As it must be placed in a flank sector I assume that it cannot be across the table middle, ie in 2 sectors, which I would have prefered. |
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daveallen
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| Posté le: Ven Oct 01, 2021 2:24 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Mike Bennett a écrit: | | Well I have never used them before, and used them every time I defended at the LGT . And I defended more often than I thought was fair with a 4 initiative . NB this may not be a fair sample, as using a village was driven by my choice to use light infantry, not mediums, hence why I wanted to be sure in advance. As you say a change from V3, you were so convinced that I was wrong, your face was a picture when you checked the rules. |
The Coast and a Village was just greedy Mike. 
In the end they narrowed the table too much for both of us. Good game though.
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MC_Delicatessen
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| Posté le: Sam Oct 02, 2021 7:35 am Sujet du message: |
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The part I am confused/surprised about: the player chooses any flank sector.
Sanity check: so the defender does not have to roll to determine which flank sector for the village? |
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Mike Bennett
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| Posté le: Sam Oct 02, 2021 7:45 am Sujet du message: |
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| MC_Delicatessen a écrit: | The part I am confused/surprised about: the player chooses any flank sector.
Sanity check: so the defender does not have to roll to determine which flank sector for the village? |
Nope. If there is a river or waterway it must touch, otherwise the player chooses the sector. However the power of this is reduced as it must be placed after any river/coast and before the other pieces that are rolled for.
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daveallen
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| Posté le: Sam Oct 02, 2021 11:40 am Sujet du message: |
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Similarly, the player chooses which flank for a River or Coast without rolling.
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Mike Bennett
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| Posté le: Sam Oct 02, 2021 8:18 pm Sujet du message: |
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| daveallen a écrit: | In the end they narrowed the table too much for both of us. Good game though.
Dave |
Nope, still too wide for me. if I had chosen area I would have had a impassable too, which might have made it harder for your army to slip away and avoid a fight
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Za Otlichiye
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| Posté le: Dim Oct 03, 2021 2:20 am Sujet du message: |
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| Citation: | | Similarly, the player chooses which flank for a River or Coast without rolling. |
Sly there, Dave! 
Opps  I thought the table was empty when the river/coastal zone is placed, but now I realize the mandatory feature is down, so it's not trivial.
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Three
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| A related question - if a player is defending in Plains, rolls for and successfully gets a village, then elects to place it on a gentle hill, does that use up the 1 gentle hill allowed, or is it an additional one? |
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Za Otlichiye
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| Posté le: Mar Oct 05, 2021 4:27 pm Sujet du message: |
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The wording is loose, but it only makes sense if the hill is already part of your selections.
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I'm still concerned about whether you can continue to try to select a river/coastal zone after you fail to get it; and whether you can try to select a river/coastal zone if you fail to place a village. I'm guessing the answer is no, but I'm not seeing it addressed in the rules. |
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KevinD
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| Posté le: Mar Oct 05, 2021 4:58 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Za Otlichiye a écrit: | The wording is loose, but it only makes sense if the hill is already part of your selections.
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I'm still concerned about whether you can continue to try to select a river/coastal zone after you fail to get it; and whether you can try to select a river/coastal zone if you fail to place a village. I'm guessing the answer is no, but I'm not seeing it addressed in the rules. |
I would think you cannot repeatedly try to place the same feature. Otherwise why bother rolling at all if you can continue rolling until you get the result you want.
However I would think you could try to place a waterway or river (once) if you fail to get a village and vice versa.
I think you only get one attempt at each class of features. |
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Hazelbark
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| Posté le: Mer Oct 06, 2021 6:00 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Three a écrit: | | A related question - if a player is defending in Plains, rolls for and successfully gets a village, then elects to place it on a gentle hill, does that use up the 1 gentle hill allowed, or is it an additional one? |
I believe it does, as p75 describes it "The hill counts as an additional selection" |
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