Ballista
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Posté le: Mer Déc 11, 2019 4:11 am Sujet du message: Flank Conformation |
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What is the correct procedure to charge then conform to the flank of a enemy unit - it doesn't matter whether the enemy unit is melee 0r not
I'm specifically interested in how 'must conform correctly' is interpreted P54 Unable to conform is the reference . |
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SteveR
Prétorien
Inscrit le: 21 Mar 2018 Messages: 287
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Posté le: Mer Déc 11, 2019 6:05 am Sujet du message: |
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Well, it does matter if the enemy unit is in melee, as a unit in melee cannot be the target of a charge (page 36)
Unless the charge is uncontrolled of course. Then it can be a target. (page 40)
Anyway the conformation procedure is laid out on page 52, however it was updated as an official rules amendment so make sure you are looking at that.
Must conform correctly is interpreted as being able to fully reach the correct final state - either on the flank or on the rear edge - without being blocked from that position by other units, impassible terrain or ZOCs |
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Ballista
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Posté le: Mer Déc 11, 2019 8:37 am Sujet du message: |
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So lets assume the unit attacking the flank has only partially conformed as a result of it's movement and initial contact - say only part of the unit legally contacts the flank
1. Is it then able to slide to fully and properly conform to the flank -
2. Is it able to push enemy/friendly units out of the way (that can be pushed away) to fully and properly conform as per P53 Conforming and Displacing Units ? |
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SteveR
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Posté le: Mer Déc 11, 2019 4:10 pm Sujet du message: |
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I can answer 50% of your questions definitively.
1. Yes. Look at the diagram on the upper right of page 53. It shows a unit sliding to conform. It can't do it because of the ZOC but if the ZOC were not there it could.
2. I believe so |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
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Posté le: Ven Déc 13, 2019 1:30 am Sujet du message: |
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Why would 2 not be allowed when it is written to be specifically allowed?
Is there something more specific you are referring to? |
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lionelrus
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Posté le: Ven Déc 13, 2019 6:59 pm Sujet du message: |
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Hazelbark a écrit: | Why would 2 not be allowed when it is written to be specifically allowed?
Is there something more specific you are referring to? |
wellcome in my own world.... _________________ "Quand on a pas de technique, faut y aller à la zob"
Perceval à Yvain et Gauvain. |
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Ballista
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Posté le: Sam Déc 14, 2019 2:03 am Sujet du message: |
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I asked the question as the situation came up in a game last week - my opponent gave the above interpretation while I used what I had been told on another forum
ie - What I had been previously told was - Must conform properly at time of contact and the conformation procedure doesn't apply to flank contacts (no slide by up to 1 UD and definitely no pushing units out of the way to enable proper conformation) - the persons on the other forum who strongly argued this interpretation have a lot more experience with the rules than I do but after the last game I decided to ask again.
Hence the original question |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
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Posté le: Ven Jan 03, 2020 1:13 am Sujet du message: |
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Sorry holiday.
So "proper" pushed away may be the issue.
Slide 1 UD is definitely permitted. |
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