L9000
Archer
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Localisation: Roma
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Posté le: Dim Aoû 29, 2021 10:59 am Sujet du message: 130 Arab Conquest |
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Does the note at the bottom of the list also mean the no Arab allies at all can be taken before 634AD? |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
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Posté le: Lun Aoû 30, 2021 5:14 pm Sujet du message: |
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That is how I would read it. |
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lionelrus
Magister Militum
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Localisation: paris
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Posté le: Mar Aoû 31, 2021 9:40 am Sujet du message: |
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Correct _________________ "Quand on a pas de technique, faut y aller à la zob"
Perceval à Yvain et Gauvain. |
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IanS
Barbare
Inscrit le: 23 Juin 2019 Messages: 29
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Posté le: Jeu Sep 02, 2021 12:21 pm Sujet du message: |
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So what about Bedouin?
If you read the note as no Arab allies until post 634, it reads that you can never have Bedouin allies which does not really fit in with what I remember about the growth of the Islam out of the Desert. The first converts, after those from the Medina, were tribesmen living in the desert, which I would say are Bedouin.
It makes more sense to me for it to be Arab allies, but no Bedouin after 634 - as they had moved out of the desert areas by them.
Of course it does not make it easy when every date in the list is different |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
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Posté le: Jeu Sep 02, 2021 9:19 pm Sujet du message: |
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fair point for discussion.
Will seek clarification. |
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Mike Bennett
Centurion
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Localisation: Carnforth, Lancashire, UK
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Posté le: Dim Juil 03, 2022 10:26 pm Sujet du message: |
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IanS a écrit: | So what about Bedouin?
If you read the note as no Arab allies until post 634, it reads that you can never have Bedouin allies which does not really fit in with what I remember about the growth of the Islam out of the Desert. The first converts, after those from the Medina, were tribesmen living in the desert, which I would say are Bedouin.
It makes more sense to me for it to be Arab allies, but no Bedouin after 634 - as they had moved out of the desert areas by them.
Of course it does not make it easy when every date in the list is different |
When I was lost checking a tournament I got clarification from Herve. “ The allies cannot be taken before 634 and it cannot be a Bedouin tribe.†|
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