Art De La Guerre

JohnTheBoring · Post� le: Dim Juin 05, 2022 11:51 am Sujet du message:

I think this comes down to the question - what does the unit do if it does not have a legal move away?

Example - a unit that is not impetuous or capable of evading, ZOCed from the side so it does not have a free charge forward, not enough CPs to do a move as the general is fighting/out of range.

Does it just stay in side to side contact?

JohnTheBoring · Post� le: Dim Juin 05, 2022 1:41 pm Sujet du message:

Ramses II · Post� le: Dim Juin 05, 2022 6:09 pm Sujet du message:

So, it seems that the more complete answer to the highly improbable situation posed is as follows;

From p51. 2nd para; Where possible, a player is compelled to move a unit that is in contact with the enemy whilst also being in the ZoC of another enemy. Thus

If the unit does not have a “free” move available, the player must spend CP to move the unit.
Where the player has insufficient CP to move the unit, he may only use the commander’s CP.
(And before anyone asks, I suggest that any ‘spare’ CP are lost rather than being available for use elsewhere.)

Note
The diagram on p51 shows a situation where Conformation is not possible, but is incorrect in suggesting that the player may choose to allow the unit to stay in place. However, there may be circumstances where the player is forced to leave the unit in place, in which case it does not take part in a melee.

JohnTheBoring · Post� le: Dim Juin 05, 2022 7:03 pm Sujet du message:

KevinD · Post� le: Dim Juin 05, 2022 7:19 pm Sujet du message:

Longtooth · Post� le: Dim Juin 05, 2022 8:23 pm Sujet du message:

Ramses II · Post� le: Dim Juin 05, 2022 8:47 pm Sujet du message:

Not yet Jesse, I am still trying to get hold of EK.

KevinD · Post� le: Dim Juin 05, 2022 9:23 pm Sujet du message:

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1544

El Kreator and I discussed. So i am here the imprefect conveyor of information.
The next FAQ will state, that there is no requirement by a player to spend a CP to resolve this situation. There is no requirement for the unit to use a spontaneous charge, there is no requirement that an internal general CP be used.

So "if at all possible" does not compel player action. If compels the unit to make conformation if at all possible if there are no extenuanting circumstances.

Dickstick · Post� le: Ven Juin 10, 2022 10:43 pm Sujet du message:

I'm confused.

Does it have to confirm or not?

Unless there is an R in the month?

Let's make the "clear as mud" clearer please
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SteveR · Prétorien Inscrit le: 21 Mar 2018 Messages: 287

It does not have to conform.

It also does not have to charge.

Assuming the FAQ is written as Dan has foretold.

Dickstick · Post� le: Ven Juin 10, 2022 11:13 pm Sujet du message:

Then the words can be deleted?
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AlanCutner · Post� le: Ven Juin 10, 2022 11:31 pm Sujet du message:

I agree, also confused. So a corps has 4CP and spends 3 on various actions and wastes the last. Theres no requirement to spend the wasted CP to resolve the situation? Wats the point of the words 'if at all possible'?

KevinD · Post� le: Sam Juin 11, 2022 3:18 am Sujet du message:

I read Dan’s post to say:

If ZOCs prevent you from conforming, you can sit in place instead of being forced to spend a CP to charge or escape or doing a spontaneous charge. As per the top right diagram on page 51.

(If there were no ZOCs you would have to conform if you didn’t spend a CP to get out of the conforming situation.)

JohnTheBoring · Post� le: Sam Juin 11, 2022 10:14 am Sujet du message:

Thanks Hazelbark and Kevin. That is clear...... to me at least!