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Mike Bennett
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Inscrit le: 11 Nov 2017 Messages: 582
Localisation: Carnforth, Lancashire, UK
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Posté le: Lun Juin 22, 2020 3:26 pm Sujet du message: 300 points and allies |
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At 300 points are allied command minimum and maximums also increased by 50%. I cannot find anything that suggests otherwise, it just feels a little bit strange |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1669
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Posté le: Lun Juin 22, 2020 9:46 pm Sujet du message: |
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They are proportional yes. |
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Dickstick
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Inscrit le: 17 Juil 2016 Messages: 721
Localisation: West Bromwich
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Posté le: Lun Juin 22, 2020 11:05 pm Sujet du message: |
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P76
The armies
Second and third lines
" troop allowances of each army list are multiplied "
Seems clear to me
Do you see something I don't? _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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Mike Bennett
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Localisation: Carnforth, Lancashire, UK
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Posté le: Mar Juin 23, 2020 1:02 pm Sujet du message: |
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So we are all agreed, allies are increased by the same proportions. Ie
*50% (allies) * 1.5 (300 points).
All rounding done at the end, not twice, stage by stage, so 3 in list becomes 2 (3 to 1.5, to 2.25) for an ally at 300 points not 1. |
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Dickstick
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Posté le: Mar Juin 23, 2020 1:56 pm Sujet du message: |
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We (can't claim for the others )are agreed allies are increased by 50%.
Technically all lists are increased first then allies halved.
Practically easier to multiply by 0.75 and round down once provided limits on p78 for allied corps are adhered to.
This may not work for a normal max of one. _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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Mad Max
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Localisation: Béthune
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Posté le: Mar Juin 23, 2020 6:58 pm Sujet du message: |
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Allied corp can cost up to 80 points for à 200-point army. This raises to 120 points for a 300-point army.
Come on guys, even i ken that  _________________ Maxime, Ch'tis Stratège de l'Artois
pas vraiment ch'ti, pas vraiment stratège, pas vraiment amateur d'art non plus |
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Dickstick
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Posté le: Mar Juin 23, 2020 7:15 pm Sujet du message: |
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And what people can miss is that includes the cost of the command points _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1669
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Posté le: Lun Juin 29, 2020 9:09 pm Sujet du message: |
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Mike Bennett a écrit: | So we are all agreed, allies are increased by the same proportions. Ie
*50% (allies) * 1.5 (300 points).
All rounding done at the end, not twice, stage by stage, so 3 in list becomes 2 (3 to 1.5, to 2.25) for an ally at 300 points not 1. |
Uh, does it matter when the rounding occurs. I guess so mathematically. I hadn't even imagined that was an issue. This seems very detail focused. I would have "generically" thought in order of the game. And only because you asked.
200 = standard
*1.5 because we are playing 300.
Round because that is math.
Now you want an ally.
*.5
round because this is math.
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Would I be worked up if you did it in a different order....no. |
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Mike Bennett
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Posté le: Lun Juin 29, 2020 10:28 pm Sujet du message: |
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I agree rounding is largely irrelevant. However the devil is in the detail and it can be disproportionate for low volume high impact troops. E.g 3 elephants, heavy knights,....l
Two stage
3 * .5 = 1.5 rounds down to 1
1* 1. 5 = 1.5 then rounds down to 1 again
Net a 300 point ally gets 1 elephant
Or alternative order 2 stage
3 * 1.5 = 4.5, rounds down to 4
4 * 0.5 rounds down to 2
Net 2 elephants
Also one stage
3* 1.5 * .5 = 2.25, rounds to 2.
So half as many of what might be an important piece. Of course it is only a game, and there are 300 points so lots of pieces, so no need to get one more piece out of proportion. However wanted to try to get it right. |
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Dickstick
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Posté le: Mar Juin 30, 2020 7:38 am Sujet du message: |
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As all lists are multiplied (×1.5 or 2) first before you pick your list and then choose your allies (which should have been already multiplied ) there is no problem. _________________ Player 747 don't call me Jumbo |
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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
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Posté le: Mer Juil 01, 2020 6:31 pm Sujet du message: |
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Dickstick a écrit: | As all lists are multiplied (×1.5 or 2) first before you pick your list and then choose your allies (which should have been already multiplied ) there is no problem. |
If in doubt, I agree. |
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