Art De La Guerre

[Commodore]

Hi All,
It seems usefull to remind some rules to organizers and umpires concerning end game procedure.
Standard game duration is defined in the tournament Chart (Annex 1 para 6).
Any game duration change must be clearly announced to players before the game start.
A game must last at least 7 turns if no decisive result is obtain. (Annex3 para3)
End game time proximity must be announced 30 minutes before the limit
Out of a victorious game , a game always ends at the end of the defender`s turn. (Annex3 para3).
“Dice down” procedure is not authorized in championship tournament.
Blitz procedure is applied upon umpire decision.
Each player has 3 minutes from this moment to move units. Shooting and combats are quickly solved out of time recording.
Blitz last up to the end of 7th defender`s turn.

Hubert Bretagne
Technical team director
Championship Committee
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[Mike Bennett]

Hi guys

I had not seen these rules before they were pointed out at the london GT. They are applicable for events submitted to the statistics section on this site. Clearly organisers can freely choose whether they wish to comply and then upload based on self policing, as it is only a hobby after all. For anyone who is interested, full rules are on http://www.artdelaguerre.fr/adlg/v3/upload/events/en/organization/Spreadsheets%20for%20individual%20tournament/Tournament%20Organization%20Charter%20-%20Art%20De%20La%20Guerre.pdf

In the UK we also have the parallel BHGS rankings, so 2 chances to get the ranking we deserve, without counting the ELO system as well!!. They are just a bit of fun to chat about in the pub, and take the micky out of friends. If they start to get taken too seriously or negatively influence behaviour they should be dropped anyway.

[lionelrus]

what is dice down, ô great salty dog?
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[madaxeman]

“Dice down” is when the umpire calls “time”, and players either stop immediately, or they play to the end of the current phase (melee, shooting, movement etc) 

This is very common in the UK, and means the organisation of the next round is much improved as all games end and submit results quickly allowing players to go to the pub or start tbe next round all together 

Of course this system is the same for all players in the tournament, so no one has an advantage or disadvantage from it.

Sometimes this can work in your favour, sometimes against you - but then again, so can every single dice roll you make in tbe game as well. 

I am sure this will remain a popular system in the UK and elsewhere as it prioritises social time over regarding the game as something serious and official. 
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[daveallen]

[AlanCutner]

For tournaments I organise (mainly Sgian-Dubh) I will continue to use the 'dice-down' option. There are two reasons
1. Organisation of the tournament is far easier (main reason).
2. To continue to end of defenders turn can give the defender an advantage. The defender knows they are going last so can avoid needless command point expenditure and use points to put units in support positions normally too risky or rally up units where they normally wouldn't.

If this means Sgian-Dubh can't be included in the championship then so be it.

[kevinj]

For the Northern League rounds that I organise we often have a hard finish time for the venue that we are using and have only short breaks between rounds. For that reason we can't let games carry on beyond the finish time and will need to continue to use the end of the current phase as the stopping point when time is called.

[Commodore]

[Commodore]

[AlanCutner]

Hubert

I don't understand why the endgame rules have to be so prescriptive. Surely it doesn't matter how the endgame works as long as it stated in advance and applies equally to all players.

[Commodore]

[madaxeman]

[AlanCutner]

Hubert, with all respect I think you're being pedantic. None of the 'alternate' finish methods contravene the RAW rules in any major way. However the championship instructions bring in new rules not in the book, ie minimum number of turns and blitz. So some rules are allowed to be changed or introduced, but other minor ones are not allowed.

You are the boss on the championship and I respect your right to manage it how you see fit. But for inclusivity I would prefer to see more flexibility. And on that I'll shut-up.

[Commodore]

[madaxeman]