Art De La Guerre

Mark G Fry

Apologies if these have been answered previously:

1) when deploying Corps' - is it acceptable to 'deploy' a Corps that is all in Ambush or on a Flank March as your 1st Corps.
So in effect you are not putting any units on the table?
Or must these types of Corps be your either your 2nd & 3rd (if you have both an Ambush & a Flank March) or your 3rd Corps (if either an Ambush or a Flank March)?

2) how does a Flank March interact with Ambush markers. For example: if there is an Ambush marker, in a Village at 4 UDs of the table edge that a flank march comes onto the table on, so it is not with 4UDs of the table edge, so does not have to flee. Does that marker still exert its influence on troops in the flank march? e.g. they must stop 1 UD away from the Ambush marker.

3) Page 79 states that you cannot flank march on a side with an Impassable river on it. However, if there is a road crossing the Impassable river (creating a bridge or ford) can there be a flank march on that side? (as the river is now passable via the road?)

Many thanks
Mark

KevinD · Post� le: Jeu Jan 19, 2023 1:22 pm Sujet du message:

1. I thought corps which did not have any units on the table had to go last, but now that I think about it m not sure if this is actually a rule…

2. If it doesn’t have to flee it would behave normally and must be revealed, stops marches, etc. according to the normal rules.

3. I think you could because it is not then “blocked” by an impassable river.

Mark G Fry · Post� le: Jeu Jan 19, 2023 3:04 pm Sujet du message:

Those were the answers I had come to as well Kevin. Thank you.
But I just wanted confirmation that I was on the right track.

I have historically played a game (but under v.3) with a large command on-table but in ambush and another command on a flank march.
It is a risky strategy but it worked for me in that game.
However, re-reading the deployment rules in v4, I cannot find any reference to having to deploy a Corps with units visible first.
The danger is that I might be playing this as a 'hang-over' from v3 or something that has to happen in another set of rules I've played in the past.

It would be interesting to see how others play it.
Cheers

Mark

Neep · Prétorien Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 298

I don't think you "deploy" entirely out of sight corps at all. They are marked on the battle plan. You take turns deploying visible (or partly visible) corps.

Neep · Prétorien Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 298

Must the bridge be perpendicular to the table edge? Very Happy

Mark G Fry · Post� le: Jeu Jan 19, 2023 4:05 pm Sujet du message:

Mark G Fry · Post� le: Jeu Jan 19, 2023 4:07 pm Sujet du message:

KevinD · Post� le: Jeu Jan 19, 2023 7:09 pm Sujet du message:

I thought the bridge obviates the river crossing rule for units on the bridge and thus the bridge does not need to be perpendicular. The limit of one turn in a road might make getting the bridge crossing perpendicular difficult. That said, realistically, who would choose to build a bridge at a very shallow angle given the extra expense?

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1669

1) No you cannot say my 1st corps is deployed or on flank march. An important to remember here is this is not the WRG game where the object of the game was to exploit the rules of the game.

2) page 79 clearly says "including those in ambush" so all units in an ambush must flee. Treat the ambush as gone.

3) The rule says "blocked" if you have a crossing it is not blocked. Yes a road crossing at angle creates a bridge/ford and "units to cross without penalty"