Art De La Guerre

[Gingerdave]

So here's the situation. Numbers facing down, letters facing up, _ are gaps. Less than 1UD between the lines so everyone is in a ZOC.

1111___2222___3333___4444

AAAABBBBCCCCDDDDEEEE

Those gaps in the number line are 0.75 UD. Letters charge.

1111___2222___3333___4444
AAAABBBBCCCCDDDDEEEE

B has to conform to 2. D to 3. E to 4. There's no space for C, so it shifts backwards and doesn't take part in the combat, correct? Or does incomplete conformation apply?

Similar situation, assume that the letters are two groups, ABC from one and DE another.
If ABC charge:

1111___2222___3333___4444
AAAA__BBBB___CCCC
_________________DDDDEEEE

Formatting not perfect!

E can't slide due to the ZOC, so can only charge forward. D can't get in because there's no space. It might even have been shifted so can't move. Correct?

Something like this happened a few nights ago.

[Neep]

C is supporting B, so, page 53, it cannot be shifted out of support.
I think by page 50 "must conform as fully as possible" B and C would slide right, resulting in an incomplete conformation where C is supporting both B and D. Not certain, but it seems fair.

[EDIT - looking at it again it appears there is supposed to be 3/4 UD between the numbered units. So Dick is right, C would fight 2 with B supporting both A and C.
Thinking about it some more, there would be times when pivoting and sidling as much as possible will not be beneficial. I'm not sure whether contact that will conform incompletely just stops where it is, or attempts to maximize contact and/or alignment. Or maybe a choice?]

[Dickstick]

A to E stay as they are .
Think most threatening enemy p35.
A fights 1
C fights 2 (most in contact)
B supports A & C
D&E are equally in contact
Diagram top p53
Units in contact cannot be shifted.
So D&E stay as they are count either as main melee unit and other as support.

Second question D hits C and stops while E carries on to contact 4
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[ALEXANDER]

I agree with dickstick.

C will fight against 2 and B will give support to A and C

But
if the gaps are.075 UD
E will not be in the zoc of 4 and will not even make contact with 4....

D and E are both in contact with 3 with 1/2 UD of their front. If D conforms to 3 and E is pushed to the right
E will contact the new enemy 4.
I am not sure whether E will then separate from the group and conform to 4

I changed the numbers 1,2and 3 to XYZ

XXXXOOOYYYYOOOZZZZOOO4444
AAAABBBBCCCCDDDDEEEE

[Neep]

Another good point..

When you attempt to diagram, remember to 1. Highlight 2. punch the "Code" button.

[Hazelbark]

[ALEXANDER]

Just imagine some unit of 1 to 4 would have front to the right (with or without gaps / I not sure about the gaps)

These contacts would be flank attacks that cannot correctly conform

The contact would therefore not be allowed

So the group move of AtoE would be illegal

[madaxeman]

[Hazelbark]

[ALEXANDER]

[lionelrus]

Why B is not allowed to attack?
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[ALEXANDER]

Sorry, it was version 3

B can attack HI2 and will conform to the front of HI2