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AlanCutner
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MessagePosté le: Ven Déc 20, 2024 12:03 pm    Sujet du message: Deployment query Répondre en citant
Point raised at club last night.

P78, penultimate para
"Once all units have been placed on the table, ...... If asked a player should inform his/her opponent if some units are not visible, but without specifying whether they are in ambush and/or flank marching."

So, if a player deploys elements of three commands on-table its clear there isn't a flank march. But if asked if all units are deployed a 'yes' means all ambushes must be fake.

I've never heard of this rule being applied. Have we understood it correctly, and is this revealed information about ambushes the intended consequence?
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MessagePosté le: Ven Déc 20, 2024 6:30 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
AlanCutner a écrit:
Point raised at club last night.

P78, penultimate para
"Once all units have been placed on the table, ...... If asked a player should inform his/her opponent if some units are not visible, but without specifying whether they are in ambush and/or flank marching."

So, if a player deploys elements of three commands on-table its clear there isn't a flank march. But if asked if all units are deployed a 'yes' means all ambushes must be fake.

I've never heard of this rule being applied. Have we understood it correctly, and is this revealed information about ambushes the intended consequence?


I believe this is a rule intended to address the issue that there is nothing that can really be done to prevent an over-eager, over-competitive opponent counting up the total number of army points they can see on-table, and hence deducing whether there is an ambush (or indeed a flank march), and also roughly what might be included in it.

This - if it happens - adds nothing to the game as a simulation, and is simply a complete waste of everyone's time - so rather than attempt to legislate against it, Herve instead included this rule to help short-circuit it.

Personally I feel it is very unsporting to count up points, and I much prefer to approach the game in ignorance of whether ambush markers are real, whether a flank march exists, and how big it might be - so I'd always choose not to ask.

If someone ever asks me, I raise my eyebrows, peer at them over my glasses and ask if they are really sure they want to ask that question?

I they still do want to know, thats fine, and I'll tell them and move on ..


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MessagePosté le: Ven Déc 20, 2024 11:36 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
It's still your choice to occupy one of the ambushes with a single LI or not.

I find it extremely excruciating watching the clock go by while an opponent does the maths.
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MessagePosté le: Dim Jan 05, 2025 10:51 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
The clear intent of the rule is: don't tally the opponent's troops. Leave some level of mystery.

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