Art De La Guerre

Orlando Almeida · Centurion Inscrit le: 10 Sep 2016 Messages: 483

Hello,

On this situation, cavalry A is clearly not on the flank o Bowmen B.
But Since Bowmen B isn't giving any kind of support, his frontal isn't commited neither in support neither in mélée.

The question is: can cavalry A, make a 90º turn and charge B?

The option I see are:
A) YES he can since he's reaching the frontal corner of Bowmen B (the front of the unit isn't either involved in melée or melée support), then since the cavalry won't be able to conform (Bowmen will conform on its turn), we'll have a frontal combat with incomplete conformation
B) NO the cavalry A is contacting the flank of Bowmen B and it didn't started in a position where it was already threatening the opponent's flank.

Which one is correct?

Thanks for the answers!

Ramses II · Post� le: Sam Ao� 02, 2025 8:47 am Sujet du message:

Cavalry A must make contact with enemy B before considering the conformation. Since A does not start behind the flank of B, it may not charge B. (See p41, flank contact).

lionelrus · Post� le: Sam Ao� 02, 2025 3:54 pm Sujet du message:

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1697

Orlando Almeida · Centurion Inscrit le: 10 Sep 2016 Messages: 483

Thank you all for your feedback.

So please confirm, then this awkward situation may really occur
It’s the red player phase, player wants to stall for one 1 round, avoiding a charge on the bowmen.

Does it get a free Jail card, turning 90º hence disabling the possibility for the yellow A cavalry to charge the bowmen on the next yellow phase?

Am I missing something?

Thank you

Hazelbark · Magister Militum Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1697

You are correct, the bow cannot be charged in the flank.

madaxeman · Post� le: Dim Ao� 03, 2025 1:24 pm Sujet du message:

Neep · Signifer Inscrit le: 09 Jan 2023 Messages: 352

How did A get there anyway?
Move A into support - win the melee - pursue into the bow front and flank gaining a cohesion hit...

Ramses II · Post� le: Dim Ao� 03, 2025 5:02 pm Sujet du message:

I tend to agree with Neep here. In Red’s turn, the bow could slide along the flank of the enemy cavalry (see p41) and conform into melee support. This means that

A still cannot charge the flank of the bowmen
Red is more likely to win the melee given three rounds of supported melee (Red, enemy moving into position, Red again)

Orlando Almeida · Centurion Inscrit le: 10 Sep 2016 Messages: 483

Once again, thanks for the feedback.

You don't need to dig in the situation hitself. I placed in purpose a "bend the rules" example to be sure I was getting this right 100% on my mind.

My goal was getting the logic right as an umpair

Really glad on having your support for the community