Art De La Guerre

[Ballista]

It has probably been asked before, but I can't find any messages covering this question

LH are 3 UD from a village in the open

They are charged and choose to evade

Direction of evade takes them towards the village

What happens now -

1. is the village considered an obstacle - difficult terrain - (it isn't listed as one) If considered an obstacle, does the LH stop 1UD from village then turns/slide to avoid if it can't then continues evade move along edge of village?

2. As village isn't considered an obstacle and the LH has a move distance in difficult terrain, do they continue to the edge of the village, and as they have exceeded their difficult move distance stop at the edge of the village?

3. Something else entirely?

Thanks in advance.

[madaxeman]

[Neep]

This is a frequently asked question. The second bullet on page 48 explicitly disallows a unit to slide to avoid rough or difficult terrain when within 1UD (and presumably implicitly plain terrain for LI). Leaving one wondering if the other shoe should drop.

[Hazelbark]

What Madaxeman says.

*Note there is a dissent that arises in some European continent adjudications, this anomaly is being discussed.

But 98% of umpires will rule as Madaxeman writes.

[MarkK]

[Andy Fyfe]

[Neep]

Right you are. I'll correct it.

[MarkK]

In ADLG, p. 48, bullet point 2, a unit that begins its evade move within 1 UD cannot slide to avoid the enemy. However, logic would suggest that if it starts more than 1 UD away, it should be permitted to slide?

[Mike Bennett]

[Neep]

The situation remains as it has been for nearly 5 years.
On the one hand:
Obstacles that block evasion are things you can never move through and do not include rough or difficult terrain (that you can move through).
On the other hand:
Page 48 bullet 2 only forbids avoiding slowing terrain when it's closer than 1 UD.
Patrick Lefebvre's written interpretations allow this beyond 1 UD.
The V3 FAQ clearly allowed you to avoid slowing terrain after 1 UD.

[Andy Fyfe]

[Zoltan]

I really don't understand why you guys are agonising over this.

Sure, the page 48 Second case blocked evade heading uses the word "obtstacle" in a different way compared to page 67. But page 48 then clearly explains what an "evade obstacle" is:

1. an enemy unit within one UD directly ahead that it can't avoid by sliding one UD or less,
2. a friendly unit within one UD directly ahead that it can't interpenetrate or avoid by sliding one UD or less,
3. an impassable terrain piece within one UD directly ahead that it can't avoid by sliding one UD or less.

In these three cases the evade is blocked and therefore cancelled (i.e. do not consider the evade rules any further).

For clarity, if the would-be evader starts within one UD of rough or difficult terrain these are NOT considered obstacles that block the evade. The evader is NOT permitted to slide to avoid this terrain; it MUST enter the terrain (adjusting its move distance accordingly).

[Mike Bennett]

[Zoltan]