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KevinD
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MessagePosté le: Dim Oct 25, 2026 9:23 pm    Sujet du message: Shape of Village on a Hill Répondre en citant
When this is chosen as a single terrain feature, is it:

1. Rectangular and both features full occupy
2. Irregularly shaped
3. The hill remains irregularly shaped and the village rectangular and they are not coterminous, with the rectangular village sitting on top of a larger hill or a larger village sitting on top of a smaller hill. If the former the part of the hill extending beyond the village is either gentle or steep. If the latter only part of the village gives the defender a height bonus in melee.

I though I recalled it was 2 but can’t find this.
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SteveR
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MessagePosté le: Dim Oct 25, 2026 10:38 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
The village occupies the entire hill.

Page 75.

"In this case the hill is entirely covered by the village"

And the shape of the hill is not affected just because a village is on it. It is still a hill and conforms to the specifications regarding hills on page 71.
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MessagePosté le: Lun Oct 26, 2026 5:26 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
I prefer the hill conforms to the village as the village is the terrain pick. There is not a hill already there.
Also it avoids three pages of debate over the parts of the hill not covered by the village when sizes differ. Let's not open that can of worms.
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Neep
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MessagePosté le: Lun Oct 26, 2026 8:18 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
You would be better off with a wooded hill, which preserves the extra terrain piece count (and hides your Elephants), in Forest or Mountain. I guess if you are desperate for an elevated Difficult feature in Plain, you could go for it.
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Andy Fyfe
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MessagePosté le: Lun Oct 26, 2026 10:20 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Neep a écrit:
You would be better off with a wooded hill, which preserves the extra terrain piece count (and hides your Elephants), in Forest or Mountain. I guess if you are desperate for an elevated Difficult feature in Plain, you could go for it.


Putting the village on a hill is a good option when the defender wants minimum terrain.

Choose the smallest hill; you get to choose its sector and it can't be moved / removed. You also get a road that you don't have to roll randomly for.

Andy
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SteveR
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MessagePosté le: Mar Oct 27, 2026 4:24 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Dickstick a écrit:
I prefer the hill conforms to the village as the village is the terrain pick. There is not a hill already there.
Also it avoids three pages of debate over the parts of the hill not covered by the village when sizes differ. Let's not open that can of worms.


You know, I was going to cite page 75 (like I did earlier) where it says that when you combine a hill with a village the village covers the entire hill to show that sizes do not differ and so the debate would not take three pages.

However on reflection I think you might be right about the length of the debate after all.
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Neep
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MessagePosté le: Mar Oct 27, 2026 2:56 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Good points Andy.
I've finally figured out why p.75 says "If at any point one player's half of the table has 3 or more terrain pieces...more than the other half,..." A half could have 2 more pieces, and you could put down a village with a hill - 4 pieces now!-)
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