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Hazelbark
Magister Militum
Inscrit le: 12 Nov 2014 Messages: 1669
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Posté le: Lun Fév 02, 2015 6:22 pm Sujet du message: Impetuous Cavalry vs HI |
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So page 41 says impetuous cavalry do no have to charge the front edge of HI (unless HI are in disorder)
Since this wording is very deliberately different than the wording for say elephants I would like to understand better.
A line of 5 impetuous cavalry sees at 2 UD a line of enemy foot. H indicates a heavy foot. M indicates a medium foot.
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So it is clear that 1 and 5 do not have to charge as they would hit the front of HI.
It is equally clear that 2 and 4 do not have to charge as they would hit the front edge of HI and therefore the corner of the MI is irrelevant.
But does 3 have to charge? I think so. Its front edge target is MI. However it does touch the front corners of HI, but I do not think those matter. |
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lionelrus
Magister Militum
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Posté le: Lun Fév 02, 2015 6:41 pm Sujet du message: |
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yes, 3 is submited to impetuous charge. _________________ "Quand on a pas de technique, faut y aller à la zob"
Perceval à Yvain et Gauvain. |
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babyshark
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Posté le: Lun Fév 02, 2015 9:58 pm Sujet du message: |
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Interesting. Is this a useful way to mess with impetuous mounted, or does it end up being more trouble than it is worth?
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Hazelbark
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Posté le: Lun Fév 02, 2015 10:10 pm Sujet du message: |
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lionelrus a écrit: | yes, 3 is submited to impetuous charge. |
So then the question is, if the Cavalry line is approaching offset so they are not lined up.
Then 3 would also strike the front edge of HI and therefore not be impetuous as striking both MI and HI include HI. |
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Hazelbark
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Posté le: Lun Fév 02, 2015 10:12 pm Sujet du message: |
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babyshark a écrit: | Interesting. Is this a useful way to mess with impetuous mounted, or does it end up being more trouble than it is worth?
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Well after the drubbing I gave a recent person's HI it really depends. The MI creates a real vulnerable point for the mounted. HI Swordsmen maybe not. HI Spearman maybe yes.
But it is a way of getting some bow into action but protected from a sudden charge. |
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belinconnux
Magister Militum
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Localisation: BORDEAUX, near Vana
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Posté le: Mer Fév 04, 2015 10:34 am Sujet du message: |
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Hazelbark a écrit: | lionelrus a écrit: | yes, 3 is submited to impetuous charge. |
So then the question is, if the Cavalry line is approaching offset so they are not lined up.
Then 3 would also strike the front edge of HI and therefore not be impetuous as striking both MI and HI include HI. |
The target of 3 is MI cause of majoritary front. and 3 will aligne on MI for purpose of fight. _________________ Hasta la victoria Siempre!
Peter Lord dobeul impact |
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Hazelbark
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Posté le: Mer Fév 04, 2015 5:39 pm Sujet du message: |
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So when the rules write "the target" they refer to where you will conform to not where you actually first touch? |
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lionelrus
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Posté le: Mer Fév 04, 2015 6:14 pm Sujet du message: |
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Hazelbark a écrit: | So when the rules write "the target" they refer to where you will conform to not where you actually first touch? |
That's depending.
In fact, the target is the figs you will finally fight again. _________________ "Quand on a pas de technique, faut y aller à la zob"
Perceval à Yvain et Gauvain. |
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