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chris6
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Do the defender and attacker alternate in placing their corpses beginning with the defender or has the defender place all his corpses and then the attacker places all his corpses?
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| Posté le: Jeu Mai 05, 2016 3:30 pm Sujet du message: |
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Players alternate placing their corps, defender placing one corps, the attacker placing one corps, then defender place one corps.....
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chris6
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THX
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Fully ambushed corps or flank march are shown last.
So if the defender has both a fully ambushed corps and a flanked march, the following applies :
D places his corps on the table, A places the 1st corps he chooses, D announces "2nd corps placed". A then knows that there won't be another corps at all on the table. A places the 2nd corps of his choosing. D confirms the 3rd corps is placed. A places his last corps.
The opposite is the same if the attacker has both an ambushed corps and a flanked march but the former is not so usual for an attacker.
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chris6
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| Posté le: Ven Mai 06, 2016 7:14 am Sujet du message: |
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 THX once more....there is always another thought to be thought.... 
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Ramses II
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| When playing the game, if a player has only one corps "off table", he should dice for that corps first. This way he keeps its location secret until he throws a 5 or 6 (at which point he must reveal the presence of his flank march). |
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| Ramses II a écrit: | | When playing the game, if a player has only one corps "off table", he should dice for that corps first. This way he keeps its location secret until he throws a 5 or 6 (at which point he must reveal the presence of his flank march). |
I'm missing something. Why does it matter if he should throw the dice for that corps first, or last? |
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| Posté le: Ven Mai 06, 2016 3:16 pm Sujet du message: |
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| footslogger a écrit: | | Ramses II a écrit: | | When playing the game, if a player has only one corps "off table", he should dice for that corps first. This way he keeps its location secret until he throws a 5 or 6 (at which point he must reveal the presence of his flank march). |
I'm missing something. Why does it matter if he should throw the dice for that corps first, or last? |
There is no mandatory order for the corps to be diced for. Usually, players are throwing dice for "hide" corps first, in order to anticipate any flanc march arriving next turn and, so, playing the other corps in accordance with this information.
Any corps place totally in ambush may be considerated as a kind of "on table flanc march"
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| footslogger a écrit: | | Ramses II a écrit: | | When playing the game, if a player has only one corps "off table", he should dice for that corps first. This way he keeps its location secret until he throws a 5 or 6 (at which point he must reveal the presence of his flank march). |
I'm missing something. Why does it matter if he should throw the dice for that corps first, or last? |
Well- Arrival of a flank march (p. 72), 1st para states that the player dices at the start of each movement phase.
- Discovering an ambush (p. 70) last para states that if the entire corps is placed in ambush, "the player can roll the die each game turn to determine CP (even if it is not used)".
Combining the sense of these two statements, the player should dice for a corps that is "off-table" at the start of each movement phase to confuse the opponent as to whether it is a real flank march or actually an on-table ambush.
That said, I personally would have no problem with a player dicing for the "off-table" corps at any time before or after he moves the other corps. However if two corps are off-table, the player cannot disguise what he is attempting to the same extent. |
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chris6
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Deep dive into tactics here....good idea to dice for the hidden/ flank corps first....
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| Posté le: Ven Mai 06, 2016 10:09 pm Sujet du message: |
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Agreed.
One other point; as the three corps must be deployed side-by-side (see other threads in the forum), the player should take care when placing the other on-table corps so that they do not overlap the relevant ambush markers relating to the "off-table" corps. |
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chris6
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| Posté le: Sam Mai 07, 2016 11:53 am Sujet du message: |
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Puuhh... alot of stuff to be taken care on....seems I need a "easyplan-army" ....going straight and hit hard....no ambush no flankmarch...just straight hitters... 
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