Art De La Guerre

[daveallen]

I'm certain I've seen this question answered elsewhere, but I can't rmember.

There's a line of HSp fronted by LF.

Between 3 and 4 UDs to the front of the HSp are enemy Cav (non-impetuous).

Can the Cav declare a charge on the LF only and when the LF evade stop before they hit the HSp?

[Longtooth]

Yes. The Cav need only move forward 2UDs after a 'failed' charge.

[Commodore]

[footslogger]

The author clarified it here:

http://www.artdelaguerre.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4813&start=45

I was hoping this would end up in the FAQ because it seems to come up occasionally still.

[daveallen]

Thanks Footslogger.

I knew I'd seen it, just couldn't find the thread.

Good to have it repeated somewhere handy.

Dave

[babyshark]

What happens if, instead of stopping short, the cavalry want to charge the enemy units behind the light foot? Do the cav have to risk rolling a 1 or 2 on the variable move dice (and thereby ending short of the target they want), or can they declare their charge to be against the spears in the first place, ignoring the light foot that will be forced to evade regardless?

Marc

[footslogger]

The charger declares the target of the charge. The example in the existing FAQ shows that it can be the unit behind the light infantry.

[Ramses II]

Agreed.

The key thing here, brought out in the FAQ p4 "evade adjusted move distance" is that the chargers must specify the target of the charge (as well as its direction).

Once the target is defined, the rest of the charge / evade process makes sense.

[Hazelbark]

Just to clarify. As it may matter at some point.

You can't declare a charge on a target that you can't contact.

What the FAQ does is say. OK now that your target has evaded, do you have a new target given the charge direction you already determined. If there is a target within the normal move distance you do not roll an adjusted. So an intervening evader does not prevent you from reaching a unit if that unit was within normal move distance.

[Ramses II]

While I agree that the "target" must be in range, Herve did not mention a 'new' target.

In his example the HI declare their target to be the enemy HI, so the chargers do not adjust their movement when the intervening LI evade.

Alternatively, if the HI declare the LI as their target (which evades), they would only be forced to contact the enemy HI if the chargers were impetuous and their adjusted movement put them into contact (or the enemy HI were within 1UD)

This is why it is important to define the target of the charge, which does not need to be every enemy unit within range (as implied by Hazelbark's reply)

[babyshark]

[Dickstick]

[quote="Ramses II"]Agreed.

The key thing here, brought out in the FAQ p4 "evade adjusted move distance" is that the chargers must specify the target of the charge (as well as its direction).

Once the target is defined, the rest of the charge / evade process makes sense.[/quote]

Except it's now on page 5.

So this is a rule addition hid in an evade title as no where in the rules does the target need to be defined.
As far as I was concerned, you did your wheel defining your direction, and the enemy responds to that.
So perhaps needs a line of its own to be easy to locate in FAQ
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[footslogger]

[Dickstick]

Gotcha.
So it's hidden in evade procedure.
Explains place in FAQ.
Would have been more useful in charge definition p36.

At least my book is highlighted now to show others.
Thanks
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