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Hazelbark
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MessagePosté le: Mar Aoû 30, 2016 4:35 pm    Sujet du message: Conforming and terrain Coming in next FAQ Répondre en citant
Wanted to give everyone a heads up. The rules seem very clear, but they are intended to be read differently than we thought here.

Conforming with regard to terrain.

p 52 "Conforming is mandatory unless it forces....to enter terrain...the player may choose whether to conform his units or not"

I had always taken that as either conform 100% or no conform.

However The World's umpire's ruled differently and I had a long talk with El Kreator to confirm. What it means is: You conform the maximum possible without entering terrain. Then the player chooses whether to finish conforming or not.

So if you look at the diagram on page 54, The unit B will always conform to that position just outside of terrain. Then the player can choose. So if you are clipping the enemy last 2 mm. And the terrain is 20mm away down the front edge. You will slide down to that spot just short of terrain.

I have asked for this to be in the next english language FAQ.
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daveallen
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Sep 01, 2016 10:06 am    Sujet du message: Re: Conforming and terrain Coming in next FAQ Répondre en citant
Hazelbark a écrit:
The rules seem very clear, but they are intended to be read differently than we thought here.


Beautifully said.

I think I might put that one on a T shirt.

Cool
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Hazelbark
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Sep 01, 2016 3:44 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
I am full of....


....great quotes.
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Zoltan
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MessagePosté le: Sam Sep 03, 2016 9:38 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
So two steps:

Step 1. a unit MUST conform to the maximum possible without entering disadvantaging terrain

Step 2. having completed step 1 the unit MAY chose whether or not to completely conform by entering the disadvantaging terrain
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ethan
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MessagePosté le: Mar Sep 06, 2016 1:37 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
We should also make clear in the FAQ what happens when it is not possible to fully conform due to the positions of other troops on the table. I suspect that it is the same, but it should be made clear in the FAQ.
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MessagePosté le: Mar Sep 06, 2016 6:57 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
ethan a écrit:
We should also make clear in the FAQ what happens when it is not possible to fully conform due to the positions of other troops on the table. I suspect that it is the same, but it should be made clear in the FAQ.

Yes it is the same procedure, you conform up to the maximum possible and your opponent, at his phase, will eventually do the same.
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Snowhitsky
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MessagePosté le: Mar Sep 06, 2016 7:27 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
HOWEVER...all rules have exceptions.

A flank charge HAS TO conform to the flank of the enemy unit. The rule is very clear about this and El Kreator also confirmed this at the Worlds so if the flanked unit is in terrain and you want to flank charge it you will end up conforming into the terrain. No ifs, no buts.
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MessagePosté le: Mar Sep 06, 2016 8:03 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant
Snowhitsky a écrit:
HOWEVER...all rules have exceptions.

A flank charge HAS TO conform to the flank of the enemy unit. The rule is very clear about this and El Kreator also confirmed this at the Worlds so if the flanked unit is in terrain and you want to flank charge it you will end up conforming into the terrain. No ifs, no buts.


Agree again, this refer to the definition of a flank attack who, to be considered as possible, has an end state with the attacker able to fully conform on the flank. (Technically, it is not an exception but we are playing on the words.)
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