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daveallen
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Inscrit le: 28 Jan 2016 Messages: 758
Localisation: Rugby & CLWC
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Posté le: Jeu Aoû 18, 2016 8:55 am Sujet du message: Ambush |
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I have seen it written that an ambush can ignore the restriction on non-skirmishers within 4UD of the side of the table, but I can't find anything in the rules, FAQs or forums that permits this.
Can anybody enlighten me? |
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footslogger
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Inscrit le: 12 Jan 2015 Messages: 166
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Posté le: Jeu Aoû 18, 2016 1:27 pm Sujet du message: |
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I would say a couple of things. I think of them as independent, but I guess they are interrelated.
1) You put down ambushes before deployment and the rules restricting where units are placed are describing deployment.
2) There aren't any restrictions in the rules limiting what goes in an ambush where, other than what things are allowed in ambushes in specific types of terrain.
Don't know whether that helps. |
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Amra
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Inscrit le: 14 Juil 2016 Messages: 38
Localisation: Melbourne,Australia
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Posté le: Jeu Oct 27, 2016 3:00 pm Sujet du message: |
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On the topic of ambushes
1) can units of different corps be in the same ambush ?
2) can I put a unit in ambush & send the rest of the corps on a flank march ?
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fdunadan
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Inscrit le: 12 Juin 2009 Messages: 984
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Posté le: Jeu Oct 27, 2016 3:22 pm Sujet du message: |
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1) no
and 2) no
the ambush markers are placed before the units, but after the plan have been made and the units in the ambush must belongs to the corps in the area.
you can put a whole corp in ambush (one or two markers since only 4 units are allowed in each marker) but the units that are not in ambush must be deployed on the table, in the area of the corps. and more, if you have some units in ambush, you must discover all of them at the same time. _________________ Audentes fortuna iuvat. |
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Amra
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Inscrit le: 14 Juil 2016 Messages: 38
Localisation: Melbourne,Australia
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Posté le: Ven Oct 28, 2016 12:27 am Sujet du message: |
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Thank you so much
Where in the rules does it say the ambush must be from the corps "in the area "?
Also , sorry , why cant one unit be in ambush while the rest are on flank march ? |
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Mad Max
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Posté le: Ven Oct 28, 2016 4:42 am Sujet du message: |
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It may be because of the general. You need a general with your flancking troops and, while a general of an ambushed troop can be ambushed himself if the entire corp is ambushed, he must be "on the table". Furthermore an ambushed troop must be commanded, and that is not the case if the general is with the flancking troops. _________________ Maxime, Ch'tis Stratège de l'Artois
pas vraiment ch'ti, pas vraiment stratège, pas vraiment amateur d'art non plus |
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Mad Max
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Posté le: Ven Oct 28, 2016 4:43 am Sujet du message: |
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And an entire corps is flancking, not part of it _________________ Maxime, Ch'tis Stratège de l'Artois
pas vraiment ch'ti, pas vraiment stratège, pas vraiment amateur d'art non plus |
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Amra
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Inscrit le: 14 Juil 2016 Messages: 38
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Posté le: Ven Oct 28, 2016 6:29 am Sujet du message: |
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Max , thank you that makes sense but I cant find anything on p70 "placing Ambushes" that says it must be in command range ie "commanded "
Flank marches are after ambushes in the sequence , nothing on p72 prohibits ambush first ?
Sorry to be pedantic but all at my club will ask me to prove it !  |
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footslogger
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Posté le: Ven Oct 28, 2016 10:02 am Sujet du message: |
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Amra a écrit: | Max , thank you that makes sense but I cant find anything on p70 "placing Ambushes" that says it must be in command range ie "commanded "
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Read p71 |
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belinconnux
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Posté le: Ven Oct 28, 2016 10:03 am Sujet du message: |
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Hello, in "deployment" you can find that all troops of a corps has to be in command range. Troops in ambush belong to a corps. So troops in ambush have to be in command. Mathematics  _________________ Hasta la victoria Siempre!
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footslogger
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Posté le: Ven Oct 28, 2016 10:07 am Sujet du message: |
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belinconnux a écrit: | Hello, in "deployment" you can find that all troops of a corps has to be in command range. Troops in ambush belong to a corps. So troops in ambush have to be in command. Mathematics  |
In the English language edition this is explicit, on p71. |
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Amra
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Posté le: Sam Oct 29, 2016 12:51 am Sujet du message: |
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Perfect , yes !
Plus because an ambush must be in command , the General cant be on a flank march !
Both questions answered , many thanks |
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