LeGrognard
Frondeur
Inscrit le: 05 Déc 2016 Messages: 7
Localisation: Australia
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Posté le: Ven Déc 09, 2016 1:47 pm Sujet du message: List Limits and Allied Corps |
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If you want to take an allied corps, and it has certain special attributes with respect to troop types selected, can this push the upper limit of the totals for troop types beyond the initial limits for a generic army?
For example: list 60-Classical Greek
Limits for Horsemen and Peltasts are 0-3 and 0-4 respectively.
However, I can have an allied corps (actually two in this particular list) from different parts of Greece in the same army, but pay the penalty of having unreliable commanders.
If, for example, I take a generic Greek army for corps I and II, I can have combined within them:
0-3 Horsemen,
0-4 Peltasts,
0-2 Thracians,
0-4 Skirmishers, and
must have at least 6 Hoplites to max 24.
If I wish to add a third "allied" Thessalian Corp with an unreliable commander then I can opt for (using the rules for allies and maintaining total to less than 40% of the total):
1-4 Horsemen - Medium (Max 2/Max 1 elite) and or Light Cavalry Javelin
2-4 Peltasts - Javelinmen and/or Light Infantry Javelin
3-12 Hoplites
0-1 Thracians
0-2 Skirmishers
That means that the army as a whole could theoretically exceed the limits on troop types by having 7 Horsemen, 8 Peltasts, 3 Thracians and 6 Skirmishers. |
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Ramses II
Magister Militum

Inscrit le: 17 Juil 2015 Messages: 1236
Localisation: London
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Posté le: Ven Déc 09, 2016 5:42 pm Sujet du message: |
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1. I think the 40% rule only applies to allies taken from a different list. Since these 'allies' are detailed in this list.
2. Alternative entries usually change the type and number of a given unit class for the entire army. However in this case I believe they also represent the values available to an allied corps. So if you wanted to take a Thessalian corps, that corps would have those revised constraints imposed; 2-8 horsemen and 4-8 javelin armed infantry in addition to any core formations.
3. I think any excess units could still be used in other corps. So while the unreliable Thessalian corps III might have 4x javelin armed LI and 2x javelin armed LH, another corps could have 4x medium cavalry, 2x javelin armed LH and some hoplites etc |
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LeGrognard
Frondeur
Inscrit le: 05 Déc 2016 Messages: 7
Localisation: Australia
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Posté le: Mer Déc 14, 2016 8:07 am Sujet du message: |
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That's what I was thinking.
It is a unique list.
Thanks! |
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Commodore
Magister Militum
Inscrit le: 23 Aoû 2012 Messages: 1238
Localisation: London
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Posté le: Mer Déc 14, 2016 8:20 am Sujet du message: |
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Ramses II a écrit: | 1. I think the 40% rule only applies to allies taken from a different list. Since these 'allies' are detailed in this list.
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Agree
On page 78 Allied corps, first para it is said that a player may replace one of his corps with an allied corps coming from another list.
All the following bullets are linked to this
For the list 60, it is specified that each corps may be from a different origin and , if not the same as the CiC, is considered as allied/unreliable. It is not strictly an allied corps coming from another list. _________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead"
Cdr Farragut,Mobile 1864 |
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